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(Message started by: Spannerdemon on Mar 24^th, 2006, 8:33pm)

Title: Red Key and Other keys.
Post by Spannerdemon on Mar 24^th, 2006, 8:33pm

I've just become the proud owner of a 1996 Scorpio Ultima 12v.

I've had a really good look at the info on the site regarding the Red Key, but the question I have is this;

When I bought the car, the dealer gave me a bunch of Four Keys. Two Red ones, and Two Black ones.
Having tried them all in the ignition, only ONE of the red keys will actually start the car. The other three keys either get as far as showing the pre-start ignition warning lights, but don't start the car, and in the case of one black key, it doesn't even turn in the ignition, but will open the boot!

So basically i have ONE RED KEY which will operate the car.

My question is this. Can I RE-CODE/ RE-PROGRAMME the two Black Keys that I have (which presumably have some code in them already) from the PATS system, or do I need to get NEW KEYS and then programme them?

Thanks. It's not quite clear as to whether you can re-programme an exsisting key that's had code on it already.

All the keys have the RED transponder chip in them.

Many thanks ???

Title: Re: Red Key and Other keys.
Post by Dave on Mar 24^th, 2006, 8:45pm

Hi,

have a look at this link, it describes how you program new keys about halfway down the page:

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/pats.htm

HTH :)

Title: Re: Red Key and Other keys.
Post by Spannerdemon on Mar 25^th, 2006, 7:43pm

Dave.

Thanks for this but I had already read the link you gave.

The bit I'm confused about is regarding the keys that I have (see my original query). Can I RECODE keys which (presumably) have already been coded, or do I need to buy BRAND NEW (ie uncoded) keys from Ford or elsewhere and then code them.

At the moment I have two black and one other red key which are about as much use as a rubber steering wheel. If i can re-code them, then I'll do that. If not, then I'll get rid of them, as they are no use.

I DO have the MASTER RED KEY. This is the ONLY key that the seller gave me which actually fits, and starts the car, and which I'm currently using. The other three don't start the car.

Thanks again for your reply.

Title: Re: Red Key and Other keys.
Post by bootiful-scorpios on Mar 25^th, 2006, 7:54pm

you can hve keys made and programed from your red key that start your car ,

as for the boot its prob had a diffrent lock put into hence the reason why you hve the one to open ya boot !!
do your red key that start ur car open your boot ?

Title: Re: Red Key and Other keys.
Post by bootiful-scorpios on Mar 25^th, 2006, 8:00pm

on 03/25/06 at 19:43:13, Spannerdemon wrote:

i would think ford would be able to wipe the old code in your keys and put in a new one for you but im not 100% sure your best bet would be to ring them just to find out what they do , at least you do hve ya master key so that will make things a lot easier for you .

Title: Re: Red Key and Other keys.
Post by tony on Mar 25^th, 2006, 8:05pm

Spannerdemon,

Seeing as the keys are useless anyway, why not try reprogramming them. The sequence to do so is simple. Not sure whether it can be done, but its easy to try!

Tony

Title: Re: Red Key and Other keys.
Post by Kjetil S on Mar 25^th, 2006, 10:03pm

If I've understood the key programming thing correctly, you don't actually program the keys, you program the car to accept the keys. So any encoded key can be used on any car, as long as it is correctly cut and the car is programmed to accept it.

Title: Re: Red Key and Other keys.
Post by Spannerdemon on Mar 26^th, 2006, 6:32pm

Thanks for these replies. I'll try and program one of my existing keys and let you know what happens!

Title: Re: Red Key and Other keys.
Post by bootiful-scorpios on Mar 26^th, 2006, 7:07pm

good luck with that then ;)