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(Message started by: Vince on Apr 29th, 2006, 4:55pm)

Title: Keys
Post by Vince on Apr 29th, 2006, 4:55pm
Could somebody tell me if I have the right keys, and explain something to me?

When I bought the car, it came with three keys. All three are black in colour- two of them have a small red square embedded in the end that you hold.

I don't have a red key. Should I have one? (1998 2.3 Ultima)

I am only using one of these black keys at the moment- will the other one (below right) work without being "set"? I don't really understand the relationship between keys and immobiliser.

Also, I have a silly little key as shown below on the left.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/mitrabor/keys.jpg

What is this for? I presume I can't use it to start the car or can I?

I suppose the quick answer is "why don't you check and see" but I am a bit worried that I will somehow immobilise it and be unable to work out what to do next...........

Title: Re: Keys
Post by Highlander on Apr 29th, 2006, 5:26pm
Try it and see  ;D

You cant do any harm unless you force it

Title: Re: Keys
Post by sector-9 on Apr 29th, 2006, 5:39pm
The red patch on each of the keys is the 'chip' which deactivates the immobiliser when in close proximity to the ignition switch.  Your car will work fine with just the black keys, however you need the red key to be able to program any extra keys you might have made.

The small T-shaped key will open the doors, etc. but obviously not disable the immobiliser - you can use it as the master for getting additional keys cut (as you can't use it for normal driving it tends to stay with the documents so as not to get lost).

Darren

Title: Re: Keys
Post by Vince on Apr 29th, 2006, 5:57pm
OK, well I haven't got a red key so I presume I can get one from Ford? Or is there a cheaper route?

Title: Re: Keys
Post by Simmo on Apr 29th, 2006, 6:07pm
The later cars apparently did not have a red key. Hang on until Snoopy or one of the senior guys log on and I'm sure they'll advise.

Title: Re: Keys
Post by Atlantic_blue on Apr 29th, 2006, 6:07pm
Later cars were not supplied with a red key. ;D

Title: Re: Keys
Post by scorpio_man on Apr 29th, 2006, 6:09pm
hi there

you might have the newer PATS system.

see http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/images/eis3.jpg

hth

Title: Re: Keys
Post by bootiful-scorpios on Apr 29th, 2006, 9:32pm
my t shape key take off the covers on the alloy wheels , and i just hve the chip key red bit in corner . ;) ur t key look smaller than mine do

Title: Re: Keys
Post by adowds on Apr 30th, 2006, 4:57pm
I've just bought a 95 M Ultima 2.9, and it only has one key, an aftermarket non-Ford one. I got another (non-chip) key cut, and it only opens the doors.

So, without any standard keys, red or otherwise, how can I get another key with a chip to start the car? Ford Dealer? Is there any other way round it?

Hmmm.

Title: Re: Keys
Post by Atlantic_blue on Apr 30th, 2006, 8:26pm
I'm afraid it is the dealer path.

Title: Re: Keys
Post by bootiful-scorpios on Apr 30th, 2006, 8:36pm

on 04/30/06 at 16:57:05, adowds wrote:
I've just bought a 95 M Ultima 2.9, and it only has one key, an aftermarket non-Ford one. I got another (non-chip) key cut, and it only opens the doors.

So, without any standard keys, red or otherwise, how can I get another key with a chip to start the car? Ford Dealer? Is there any other way round it?

Hmmm.
put this post under the problem heading in new then u will get more replies , also you could read past post problem there is lots in there about keys  ;)

Title: Re: Keys
Post by adowds on Apr 30th, 2006, 9:42pm
Smart, will try that, thanks. Although I feel like the mad question man just now - I've got posts everywhere!

The joys of a new car!

Off to check the search function...

Title: Re: Keys
Post by bootiful-scorpios on Apr 30th, 2006, 10:08pm
:D its the same for every one as we get our scorps , trying to find out the probs with em and wot things are , when we got our car it did not even hve a hand book with it , got one of ebay  a few weeks back , sally

Title: Re: Keys
Post by adowds on Apr 30th, 2006, 10:44pm
Aye, I guess so!

I used to have a Nissan 200SX and the owners club had an amazing forum, you could get anything answered in no time.

This site is really good too, I'd be (even more) stuck without it...

Cheers!

Al



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