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(Message started by: shaunskiman on May 15^th, 2006, 12:08pm)

Title: Please help Every thing packing up !
Post by shaunskiman on May 15^th, 2006, 12:08pm

Yesterday I bashed a curb so hard it slit my n/s front open I put on the spare drove home fine, 4 hours later went to work half up our road od light starts flashing and the speedo stops working. this morning got new tyre fitted and booked the heap in for a gearbox service on wednesday, on the way home just still with no speedo and od light flashing the gearbox stays in 2nd and then the computer bleeps telling me I only have 36 miles of fuel in the tank ??? but the fuel tank is nearly full Please can anybody surgest anything the battery covers etc are all in place and I never had the problem till I bashed the curb yesterday. The speedo not working and the od light I can put down to the gearbox but whats up with the computer :-[ cheers hopingly
Shaun I.....

Title: Re: Please help Every thing packing up !
Post by fordcos on May 15^th, 2006, 12:12pm

sounds like the vss is faulty

Title: Re: Please help Every thing packing up !
Post by shaunskiman on May 15^th, 2006, 12:16pm

Hi thanks for the fast reply but whats a VSS and whats it do ???

Title: Re: Please help Every thing packing up !
Post by mr._floppy on May 15^th, 2006, 12:38pm

You could be really unlucky and the faults you describe have nowt to do with your kerb bash ( you did say it was fine on the way home ) and would have happened anyway ( such is the way of the Scorpio :-/ )

Orrrrrrr, if you're lucky the impact has dislodged or deaded a vital component, finding the offending component being the tricky part.

Title: Re: Please help Every thing packing up !
Post by fordcos on May 15^th, 2006, 12:39pm

vehicle speed sensor. its at the rear of the gearbox nearside 3 wires from it to a connector. speedo reads from as well as fuel computer also has part control of gear change.

Title: Re: Please help Every thing packing up !
Post by shaunskiman on May 15^th, 2006, 6:17pm

Thanks for that info Fordcos from what you say that should be the 1st place that I look and it will be
Cheers I will up date later
Shaun I...

Title: Re: Please help Every thing packing up !
Post by shaunskiman on May 18^th, 2006, 5:07pm

UPDATE
the car has been in a transmissions place for the last two days they connected the test leads and came up with the codes for no vss and a code to do with the Turbine shaft !, the guy changed the vss but there was no difference so now he thinks loom problems which for £40 an hour labour he would start looking for the problem also for the other thing the Turbine shaft he says he has to strip the box down to replace it at a cost of about £500.00 +vat.
In the last 6 months I have replaced all disks and pads the rear wheel bearings, starting motor, new tyres gaters bushes you name it I have had it done, so after this big ex para had a :'( I have decided to call it a day and scrap it I do hope landrover discoverys are more reliable because after 3 scorpios and 3 years thats me
Cheers all
Shaun I.....

Title: Re: Please help Every thing packing up !
Post by scorpio_man on May 18^th, 2006, 5:51pm

hi there

did you look in the fuseboxes? i know you have the covers fitted, but maybe some rainwater was forced in with the impact.
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/acdrain.htm

when did the o/d light start flashing? after the impact?

Title: Re: Please help Every thing packing up !
Post by shaunskiman on May 18^th, 2006, 7:53pm

yes not straight away on the next outing a few hours later

Title: Re: Please help Every thing packing up !
Post by sector-9 on May 18^th, 2006, 10:00pm

Be a shame to scrap it when you've paid out so much already. The loom isn't that complicated (if you've ever fitted a towbar or alarm you'll be right at home) and can be repaired. You don't even need to know exactly where the fault is, just a good idea and replace that entire section!

If you really don't want the hassle then I'll give you £20 for it but you know you'd rather fix it and keep it.

Darren

P.S.

All cars are becoming more and more complicated due to ever increasing demands for emissions and economy - you've now got ABS, airbags, EGR and evap systems, cats and fuel injection - that's without the optional luxury items you can specify! The Discovery is a nice car (truck?) but unless you're buying one that's only a few years old you're still going to get problems in time, and will you be any better equipped to fix those?

Title: Re: Please help Every thing packing up !
Post by david_molloy on May 19^th, 2006, 12:03am

I'd certainly check the drivers side fuse box as it has no extra cover.
I made my own from thick plastic bag & duct tape - look terrible BUT it does the job.
Cannot understand why one not fitted as standard - my D regd Sierra had a purpose made one !! - unable to use it as too small.
It seems ridiculous that battery cover is "vital" yet there is nothing to main fuse box.
I'd check this for free before getting rid.
I''d give you a few quid provided it is drivable back home - where abouts in country are you.
david

Title: Re: Please help Every thing packing up !
Post by fordcos on May 19^th, 2006, 8:39am

hi just got my loom back from repair replaced all the wires and reinsulated it at a cost of £105. if you get the loom repaired the chances are all faults will go so no need to do any work on gearbox saving £500 + vat.the discovery is not a reliable vehicle and needs loads of money throwing at it all the time. dont forget the damaged loom is sending fault signals because it is shorting a common fault on the 24v.

Title: Re: Please help Every thing packing up !
Post by shaunskiman on May 19^th, 2006, 10:11am

Dear Deidre
What happens if I give the one I love one more chance by requesting her to have an auto to manual change at the powercraft hospital in devon, do you think she will forget about all the problems she has caused me with the speedo od etc.
Hope you can help me
signed
Depressed of cornwall :-[

Title: Re: Please help Every thing packing up !
Post by fordcos on May 19^th, 2006, 10:19am

sounds like its all down to the loom. just sounds like the signall is not getting through. i should check what is involved with the change to manual. i think its a lot more than a box change and a peddle fitting. 99% of faults on a cosworth are down to wireing.

Title: Re: Please help Every thing packing up !
Post by Dave2302 on May 19^th, 2006, 12:18pm

Yep, I'm a retired auto box man with a cos estate, the faults you describe are in the loom probably near the plugs on osf inner wings. Sod changing the gearbox to manual just get someone competent to sort the loom out, it will be far easier in the long run.

Title: Re: Please help Every thing packing up !
Post by fordcos on May 19^th, 2006, 12:21pm

other place for the loom to go on a 24v is between the v on the heads

Title: Re: Please help Every thing packing up !
Post by sector-9 on May 19^th, 2006, 4:17pm

As others have said, it's highly unlikely to be the gearbox itself at fault if you managed to drive it for several hours afterwards. Check the loom or pay somebody else to test it - it'll be much more worthwhile than changing to a manual (and you'll still need to sort the loom out for the speedo anyway).

Darren

Title: Re: Please help Every thing packing up !
Post by shaunskiman on May 19^th, 2006, 4:51pm

Hi people I now feel a whole lot better about finding out what the problem is, I have spoken this afternoon to STN (bill) at powercraft and I am dropping the car into him tomorrow morning as he's only 25 mile away ;D
I will up date when the problem has been sorted
Cheers
Shaun

Title: Re: Please help Every thing packing up !
Post by shaunskiman on Jun 5^th, 2006, 6:20pm

UPDATE....
The car has been expertly looked at and a full list of problems were listed, loom, gearbox, death rattle abs & tc problems to name a few. I was quoted a fix it all price and for the last few days I have been thinking in agony over what to do :'( sadly I have sold the car to be broken and no more will I have a scorpio on the drive way, the love affair lasted through 3 scorps in 3 years now it,s finished. I,ve my eye on a 4ltr Ford Explorer so I,ll be looking out for a new forum in the very near future. Great site this and it,s been very helpful to me over the last 3 years keep up the good work.
Cheers all
Shaun I.......