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Title: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by stafford on Aug 2nd, 2006, 3:43pm Hello all...has anyone put 13cm components in the front doors..if so did it just fit ok without rubbing or was extra cutting needed and speaker moved lit lower..any suggestions tips appreciated.... ::) |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by Paul B on Aug 2nd, 2006, 7:19pm In my old Mk3 Scorpio I managed to get some 5" Kenwoods in with no extra cutting. |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by stafford on Aug 2nd, 2006, 7:37pm paul can u remember if the door panels are an exact replica ..they certainly look very similar !! |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by Kjetil S on Aug 2nd, 2006, 8:00pm I remember when looking at the holes that it shouldn't be a problem fitting a pair of 5" speakers there, HOWEVER, I also noticed that the mesh in front could be a potential problem. If you like to listen to your music slightly above normal listening levels ;) Bigger speakers _could_ start hitting the door trims, and possibly damage the speakers. You could ofcourse cut the meshes out and fit your own covers, but that wouldn't look nice imho. |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by stafford on Aug 2nd, 2006, 8:21pm right were going in!!!! I have decided to strip the door down ..soundproof the door with 2 layers of dynomatt..then Im going to carefully adapt the hole thats holding the 10cm ford speaker to take a new infinity component in 13cm size. Will get a scrap yard door panel to get it perfect first. tweeters are going in the top right hand of the door cards. for the rears we are taking a dremel to the ford factory 6x4 s and they are coming out. going to epoxy the new infinitys into the existing house for a nice stealthy flush fitting. I will take bit by bit photos and put them on a photobucket site for all to see the link if they want to that is ... I am determined to do this right and will also soundproof the boot and both rear doors...ohhh it ll be like my old jag when i shut them doors!!! |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by Kjetil S on Aug 2nd, 2006, 8:46pm Nice ;D Got a call from the company I'm getting my infinity system from. They don't have the Kappa Perfect 12VQ woofer on stock at the moment, so I'll have to wait 8 days >:( However, all my amplifiers, wiring, asphalt mats, shaped foam dampening , power distributors, 150A fuses ;), bass ports and so on were shipped on time today, so that will leave me with SOMETHING to do while I await the shipment of the woofer and components. |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by stafford on Aug 2nd, 2006, 8:59pm excellent what amp you gone for ..is it all infinity? |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by Kjetil S on Aug 2nd, 2006, 9:54pm Actually the amps are from a norwegian company called Eltek, which has their own brand called dynaBel (http://www.dynabel.no) Have used their amps before and they have both excellent sound quality and power. Used a bridged 4x80W amp bridged to 2x80W + 1x250W, and that managed to melt my previous woofer (cheap MGR F-series 12", supposed to handle 400W, which I got for next to nothing). This setup will use the same 4x80 amp (4x130W RMS @ 2ohms, as the infinity components are) (but not bridged this time) to run the front and rear speakers, plus a 1x450W (1x450 @ 4ohms, 1x800W @ 2ohms) amp to drive the woofer. Have ordered power cables rated for 200A and an automatic fuse rated for 150A (should do the trick ;D) The amps have internal fuses of 150A in total themselves. The previous norwegian champion in dB drag won the pro/expert class with the same amplifiers (although using a couple more of them ;)) |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by stafford on Aug 2nd, 2006, 10:58pm yes yes yes Im totally on one now..have just ordered 70sq feet of dynamat products ..and am going to B&Q to get some insulating foams and sprays(cheaper) and am gonna sound deaden the whole car ... http://www.dynamat.com/technical_installation_installation_menu.html good lit website this one as it has lots of PDF files!! [] ::) |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by Kjetil S on Aug 3rd, 2006, 5:32am You MUST do a writeup on sound deadening. I'm sure a lot of people will appreciate that (me included) :) |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by stafford on Aug 3rd, 2006, 8:53am i will do.. it will be photo'd from start to finish with the time vs cost aspect written in. hope to do 80% of the car with 2 coats of dead matt approx £100..depends what cheap stuff i can get from B&Q to fill little nooks and cranny keeping the expensive stuff back for floor pan , doors and boot.... been looking on a vw beetle forum and some of the owners there have done this and are very pleased with the result..diff car I know but same principle ..can get 3db gains in your car stereo and poss a minus18db in cabin noise from outside...ill have some of that .. |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by Kjetil S on Aug 3rd, 2006, 3:03pm If it proves successfull it will definately be on my to do list. Depending on what tyres I use and the road surface, tyre noise CAN be quite loud in the scorpio, atleast if you compare it to newer 5-series BMW or higher spec mercs (have tried both). |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by taliban on Aug 3rd, 2006, 3:04pm cor blimey, all i want is 6x9's in the back for a bit more oomph..... |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by Kjetil S on Aug 3rd, 2006, 10:08pm Put up a new post with some pictures of some of the stuff which arrived today http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=OT;action=display;num=1154633972 |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by stafford on Aug 11th, 2006, 1:44am nice!!!! |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by DJWerkz on Aug 11th, 2006, 11:40pm ...you are not part of the 'Pimp My Ride' crew by any chance?! Speaking of 'Pimp My Ride', has anyone seen this: http://sfsurvey.com/video/vw.html |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by Kjetil S on Aug 12th, 2006, 10:52am Who, me? }{ All I've done is to try and make it as tidy as possible ;D |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by Zombie on Aug 14th, 2006, 8:32pm Ooh this makes me want to do my speakers. I have my trusty MTX sub waiting to go in the back of the car but I need to hide it with a load cover first! I got to say this Scorpio has been a treat to work on so far, with regards ICE. I got my Ipod connector installed in the coin holder last week and there was acres of space inside the dash for the box of tricks. |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by Kjetil S on Aug 14th, 2006, 8:56pm Not to forget that it has loads of space for new door speakers + the location and mesh grille on the door speakers are actually quite good when it comes to sound reproduction. Only downside is the lack of depth in the parcel shelf. |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by stafford on Aug 19th, 2006, 6:03pm got the old paper 6x4 out of the back speakers and went to halfords with the cage to try the fit on the jbl's.. 6x4s they have for sale..also had chance to listen to them in there...its a good fit ..this will work nicely going to use some bluetack to keep it from rattling and it should be a nice upgrade and totally stealth fitment ..no one will ever know. you will need to hammer a long flathead screwdriver under the magnet of the old ford speaker and wedge it about a bit to get her out ..then you are left with the housing... these look like the ones i will use ...... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9714652056&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by Kjetil S on Aug 20th, 2006, 12:19am Did a small howto on replacing the front speakers now. http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=OT;action=display;num=1154633972;start=30#33 |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by cossieguy on Aug 20th, 2006, 9:16am Splendid! Look forward to the rear "how to" as i'm planning to upgrade them. |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by stafford on Aug 20th, 2006, 8:01pm should have the amp and new 4x6 s in the rear by next week ..will post it all on the site... |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by Kjetil S on Aug 20th, 2006, 8:27pm What amp have you chosen? |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by stafford on Aug 20th, 2006, 8:39pm infinity....what do you think?? http://www.incarexpress.co.uk/view_product.php?partno=REF5761a |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by Kjetil S on Aug 20th, 2006, 8:51pm A very nice amp, but atleast according to the specs, the dynaBel-amps are better ;) However, the Infinity Amps should me more than good enough. Don't get me wrong on that one. |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by stafford on Aug 20th, 2006, 8:57pm it should make a very nice upgrade from the "Premium Ford System!!!" Ive just found some cheap floor vinal..its 5.4mm thick and I reckon it ll work quite nice as sound deadening on top of the deadmeat stuff..at a fraction of the cost of the real stuff..gonna try it in both front doors on top of the good stuff?? |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by Kjetil S on Aug 20th, 2006, 10:20pm Only have one thing to say: Take lots of pictures ;D I was considering a roll of Brown Bread (no, not beer ;)), but it is slightly expensive. A roll with 6 square meters of the stuff is about £170 + postage. A lot of people seem to recommend the stuff and it is only 2mm thick, which should mean it's easy to lay just about everywhere. |
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Title: Re: 10cm factory ford speaker upgrades... Post by stafford on Aug 20th, 2006, 11:23pm it is widely used yes ..its nice to cut and lay ..must clean paint or surfaces though for good adhesion...ive got a feeling this vinal may just do the job thogh 54mm thick will stop an awful lot of noise... |
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