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(Message started by: stuartellis on Aug 12th, 2006, 11:20am)

Title: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by stuartellis on Aug 12th, 2006, 11:20am
Hi just wondered if any one could help. I have a problem with my gearbox ,it takes five to ten minutes to engage top gear. Once it does engage top gear, the gearbox works perfectly for the rest of my journey. There is no niose, slipping or any other problems with the box. Could it be the sensor that controls forth gear ?  seemingly the speedo tells the sensor that it is time to change from third to forth gear. Any advice would be much apprieciated  thanks

                                   Stuart

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by mr._floppy on Aug 12th, 2006, 1:30pm
5-10 minutes ?,   you do mean  seconds  I  hope ?!!!


    How's  the  fluid  level ?

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by stuartellis on Aug 12th, 2006, 3:25pm
im afraid it is 5-10 mins....not seconds.fluid level was slightly low so i topped up,but no improvement.once it DOES engage top gear,its fine....works perfectly!

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by mr._floppy on Aug 12th, 2006, 4:57pm
  Does the    O/D    light  on  the dash   behave  normally  i.e.  goes off and on  when the selector button is pressed  ?

 I take it you know that the car must be travelling at 50 mph before the O/D  engages  ? ::)

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by Dave2302 on Aug 13th, 2006, 3:53pm
Also some models dont engage until engine is up to temperature, so if thermostat is stuck open or missing this could cause problem.  Watch temperature gauge in relation to when it finds top gear.  regards Dave.

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by stuartellis on Aug 16th, 2006, 5:37pm
cheers for your thoughts guys,aint solved the prob yet so may have to bite the bullet and give the ford garage loads of dosh!!!may be cheaper in the long run :-/

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by mr._floppy on Aug 16th, 2006, 6:54pm
Check that your Ford  garage knows one end of a Scorpio from the other,  there are  Ford  mechanics  who  will  have  never seen  one  let  alone  trouble  shoot  a  complicated  and  recalcitrant  autobox !

 Maybe  better  going   to  an  Auto  Specialist.

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by slimspider on Aug 17th, 2006, 11:34am
Copied this from ebay..  I got a second hand gearbox and torque convertor a year ago and worked fine since.  The number
180016557466) is the listing on ebay,

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Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by stuartellis on Aug 17th, 2006, 7:19pm
UNBELIEVABLE!!! I stumbled across the fault by pure accident.the brake pedal went solid under braking and i found the small plastic pipe to be broken between the servo and the air intake.after replacing the pipe the brakes were ok and ALSO the gearbox is perfect????i pulled out the pipe again and drove the car,once again top gear would not engage.seems crazy i know but its cured. :)

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by Dave on Aug 17th, 2006, 10:54pm
A free fix! Good to hear  :)

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by mr._floppy on Aug 18th, 2006, 12:04am
Well,  that's a new one !

 I didn't think engine vacuum had anything to do with  gear selection, I thought it was all  electronic  microchip  wizzardry.

 Buy  yourself  a  drink   ;D

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by Snoopy on Aug 18th, 2006, 6:44am
The older scorpio Mk3 and the current 12 v use vacum for the fourth gear but ALL the later scorpios 94/98 AFAIK had completely electronic garbox .

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by Geoff_W on Aug 18th, 2006, 8:22am
Welcome Stuart

Good to hear that you have a fix for your problem.

Thinking back I had a similar problem with a vacuum pipe on my  mk3 about fifteen years ago.

What year is your 2 litre?

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by stuartellis on Aug 18th, 2006, 5:03pm
its a 94.if i hadnt found out the problem myself,i would never have believed it!!at least it may help out some other people on this site.cheers guys.

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by Geoff_W on Aug 18th, 2006, 11:50pm
Stuart

Sounds like you may have an A4LD.

Are we talking a Scorpio or a Granada?

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by stuartellis on Aug 19th, 2006, 8:59am
forgive my ignorance geoff,i thought it was a granada scorpio!are they 2 different cars?its my 1st one...not really sure mate DUH!!whats the difference?

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by Geoff_W on Aug 19th, 2006, 3:38pm
OK Stuart they dropped the Granada bit in November 94 when they brought out the new Scorpio, have a look at the car on the banner if yours does not look like that it would explain why your fix was vacuum based rather than electronic.  A4LD against A4LDE

Have a look at

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/difference.htm

Geoff ;)

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by stuartellis on Aug 25th, 2006, 4:10pm
AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGH!!! THE GREMLINS HAVE RETURNED.GEARBOX WONT HIT TOP GEAR AGAIN.THOUGHT I FIXED IT BY REPAIRING SERVO-AIR VACUUM PIPE BUT MUST HAVE BEEN A FLUKE.ANYONE KNOW THE NEAREST AUTOBOX CENTRE IN THE CENTRAL SCOTLAND AREA?I GIVE UP >:(

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by scorpio_man on Aug 25th, 2006, 4:27pm
hi there

there's a good one just of the m74, glasgow end. if you want, i could put my obd-2 lead on it and see if there's an error code or two.

i'm in the southside of glasgow, so can meet you at the end of the m74.

hth

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by proberjohn on Aug 25th, 2006, 5:16pm
I know of autobox shops in Edinburgh and Forfar

John B.

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by stuartellis on Aug 25th, 2006, 6:31pm
thanks guys.if its not too much hassle scorpio-man,ur help would be much appreciated mate.its a 2.0l auto 1994.can i give you a phone?my number is 07731836876.try get some answers!

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by scorpio_man on Aug 26th, 2006, 9:26am
hi there

i'm available most sunday mornings (10am/11am). usually meet up in pub carpark at the end on the m74.

leave m74 (end) on the outside lane. take 2nd exit off roundabout, staying in outside lane. turn right at the lights (outside lane). 2nd exit at small roundabout (mcdonalds). carpark is just behind them.

let me know if you want to meet up.

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by stuartellis on Aug 26th, 2006, 11:41am
cant make it this weekend,working 2mw.if im not working next sunday tho il come thru no probs.any chance of posting the name of the street on here.i know roughly where u mean.will let u know on wed/thur re meeting up.cheers.STUART

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by scorpio_man on Aug 26th, 2006, 12:02pm
hi there

map (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=264000&Y=662500&width=700&height=400&gride=&gridn=&srec=0&coordsys=gb&db=GB&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&keepicon=&zm=0&scale=10000&in.x=10&in.y=6
)
westhorn drive, glasgow. next to j1 of m74.

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by stuartellis on Aug 26th, 2006, 3:39pm
ok mate,i know where u are.cheers

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by stuartellis on Aug 30th, 2006, 7:01pm
scorpio-man.had to put car into autoshop today.blew a pipe prob due to constant high-ish revvs.well at least il have all my gears back soon.......i hope!cheers for the help anyway mate.

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by scorpio_man on Aug 31st, 2006, 8:28pm
hi there

offer is still there, if needed.


regards

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by stuartellis on Sep 1st, 2006, 4:17pm
DILEMA TIME!garage says  the car needs a new gearbox and convertor,costing £1000!the car is in very good nic but i refuse to pay that kind of money to fix it.so was wondering if anyone would be interested in buying the car if they have a box to put in it?would rather give it to someone on the site than give it to the scrappy.bloody wheels alone cost me £600.other than the box and a small leak in the fuel tank,its a great running car.hope someone can help,and at the same time get themselves a bargain,
STUART

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by tintin on Sep 1st, 2006, 6:57pm
see my earlier posts (Feb time), i had a g/box fail on my 24v after 1 month owning. picked up a good one from Highlander, and had an autobox garage in edinburgh fit it, all in 1 week and £400

dont despair, its not worth scapping, sell the wheels to finance?

hth

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by stuartellis on Sep 2nd, 2006, 10:36am
there doesnt seem to be many gearboxes floating around.if there are any (A4LD) in the edinburgh area,i could get the garage to fit it.would be better than scrapping it!!

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by tintin on Sep 2nd, 2006, 10:39am
try getting in touch with Highlander, he helped me out a treat. im no expert but i think you can fit gearboxes from the 2.3 and 2.9 24v as well (im sure someone will confirm/deny), so may broaden your search.....

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by stuartellis on Sep 2nd, 2006, 10:44am
just sent highlander an e mail this morn mate.will see if he can help.cheers

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by Highlander on Sep 2nd, 2006, 5:55pm
Got one :)

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by Kjetil S on Sep 2nd, 2006, 7:09pm
Ofcourse you do, you have atleast half of the Scorpios in Scotland sitting in your yard  ;D

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by stuartellis on Sep 2nd, 2006, 8:52pm
YABBADABBA!!! ;D

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by stuartellis on Sep 4th, 2006, 5:49pm
PHONED GARAGE AND THEYLL FIT GEARBOX NO PROBLEM.IF U CAN GIMME A PHONE SO WE CAN MAKE ARRANGEMENTS THAT WOULD BE GREAT.07731836876.CANT THANK U ENOUGH ;D

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by Highlander on Sep 8th, 2006, 8:49pm
Found the problem, Its a Granada ;D
anyone know of any spare autoboxes floating around??

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by stuartellis on Sep 13th, 2006, 5:38pm
spoke to garage today,they r hopefull that they can use the guts of your gearbox and fit it into mine.fingers crossed :-/

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by Highlander on Sep 13th, 2006, 7:02pm
hope so :) is that an upgrade then?  ;)

Title: Re: 2.0l auto gearbox prob.Help please!!
Post by stuartellis on Sep 14th, 2006, 5:47am
dunno mate,not got a clue ;D



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