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(Message started by: Snoopy on Aug 18^th, 2006, 7:08pm)

Title: Re: heated front window
Post by Snoopy on Aug 18^th, 2006, 7:08pm

Engine needs to be running ( NOT enough to have just the ignition on) to check for power on the FRONT heated windscreen. and there are two seperate elements which I think are seperately fused.

Title: Re: heated front window
Post by matt27 on Aug 18^th, 2006, 7:26pm

any idea where the fuses is are? how i can check these elements

Title: Re: heated front window
Post by Simmo on Aug 18^th, 2006, 7:49pm

Fuse 38 right hand side,fuse 41 left hand side. Both located in the battery side fusebox. If you remove the grill around the wipers you will see the connectors to each side at the base of the screen. You MAY be able to locate them without removing the grill if you are lucky. Relay 18 in the same box also covers the screen.

Title: Re: heated front window
Post by matt27 on Aug 18^th, 2006, 9:55pm

i dont know if its connected but are the little red reflectors on the doors actually lights because mine dont light up although the switches seem to work as interior light activates when you open the door do these share a fuse or is this a diffrent thing all together

Title: Re: heated front window
Post by Kjetil S on Aug 18^th, 2006, 10:38pm

They are probably just reflectors. Check if you have lights underneath the door, if not, then they're probably just reflectors.

Title: Re: heated front window
Post by matt27 on Aug 19^th, 2006, 7:09pm

ok ive just checked this out fuse 38 and fuse 41 have no power feeding through them ive checked relay 18 and that only has power on terminal numbered 87 ive checked the connections to the windscreen they look good so any more ideas folks ?

Title: Re: heated front window
Post by Snoopy on Aug 19^th, 2006, 7:14pm

Check the earth connections at the bottom of the window on each side other than that try another relay.

Title: Re: heated front window
Post by matt27 on Aug 19^th, 2006, 7:17pm

ive checked them they both earth fine

Title: Re: heated front window
Post by Snoopy on Aug 19^th, 2006, 7:19pm

If its NOT the relay then I would suspect the heated element in both sides of the window have gone, but others might have more info .

Title: Re: heated front window
Post by matt27 on Aug 19^th, 2006, 7:47pm

i dont think its the elelements because the light on the switch doesnt come on its not getting power i dont think but what im wondering is it because the relay isnt working ? is the power supplied to the fuses before or after the relay ?

Title: Re: heated front window
Post by Snoopy on Aug 20^th, 2006, 7:19am

wiring diagrams for the scorpio are HERE (http://www.carsoft.ru/avtorepair/sierra_el.html) even though it says sierra in the title they ARE for the scorpio

Title: Re: heated front window
Post by Simmo on Aug 20^th, 2006, 9:27am

on 08/18/06 at 21:55:03, matt27 wrote:

On my Ultima they light up when you open the door. Must have a permanent live because you do not need the ignition or lights on for them to activate.

Title: Re: heated front window
Post by hellblue on Aug 20^th, 2006, 10:10am

check fuse f24 as this feeds the central timer that controls entry lights the screen switch is feed via this (engine on)you should have 12v on pin86 (relay coil) that feed is via the engine run relay f34. you should have 12v on pin 30 of screen relay which is switched to feed screen, out of pin 87. the switch light will not come on untill the l/h screen powers up. if the relay is not in power will not feed through to switch