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(Message started by: messa on Aug 19^th, 2006, 8:05pm)

Title: timing chain rattle on start up
Post by messa on Aug 19^th, 2006, 8:05pm

hi my ultima 24v rattles on start up sounds horrible even if left ten minutes still rattles what do i need to replace help please car is a 1998 r reg with 140,000 miles with full service history thanks in advance stewart

Title: Re: timing chain rattle on start up
Post by bootiful-scorpios on Aug 19^th, 2006, 8:34pm

hthttp://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/timingchain29.

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/timingchain29.htm ive sent you these links in case it help you ,

Title: Re: timing chain rattle on start up
Post by howiedintheplace on Aug 19^th, 2006, 9:11pm

It sounds like some of your guides have completely smashed up.
Don't start it again other wise a chain might break.

The timming gear needs to be looked at.

Title: Re: timing chain rattle on start up
Post by messa on Aug 19^th, 2006, 9:35pm

just to carify rattles on first start aprroxmately 10 secs then quite or if car left for 10 mins or longer rattles for a couple of seconds sorry if i have mislead any one stewart

Title: Re: timing chain rattle on start up
Post by howiedintheplace on Aug 19^th, 2006, 10:22pm

Well not as bad as it sounded in the first post but the same still applies.

A chain will break eventually.

It happens to 80,000 mile engines so yours as done well.

Title: Re: timing chain rattle on start up
Post by colinw on Aug 20^th, 2006, 3:00pm

Get it sorted soon as mate .i had a chain guide break up.
chain jumped a sproket valves hit piston,damaged the camshaft result over £2.5k rebuild bill,
trust me you have had warning from the noise it will go suddenly,i didnt even get a warning noise.
sorry if i seem the bringer of bad news but if i had ,had tensioners replaced.i would have saved a fortune and a load of grief

Title: Re: timing chain rattle on start up
Post by messa on Aug 20^th, 2006, 5:01pm

so do i need to change chain tenisioners or all guides and chains thanks stewart

Title: Re: timing chain rattle on start up
Post by solarpanel on Aug 20^th, 2006, 5:16pm

ive now taken my engine out as guides have broken still stripping it down looks like it not a cheap job to fix,gasket kit from ford £227.00 plus vat.

Title: Re: timing chain rattle on start up
Post by howiedintheplace on Aug 21^st, 2006, 9:18am

Get the gaskets from here http://www.bgautomotive.co.uk/html/catalogue.html
They are good gaskets.

If you catch the engine before anything hits the pistons you do not have to take the heads off.

You need to look at what is broke & worn.

Timming gear & crank shells are the parts that usally wear.
Tensioners usally just need cleaning but again depends on each engine.

A BOB with a rattle or broken guides can be fixed for as little as £50 in parts.

How ever it's alot of work.