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(Message started by: keithtcs on Dec 4th, 2006, 7:34pm)

Title: My 2.3 Manual hates the cold and wants to kangaroo
Post by keithtcs on Dec 4th, 2006, 7:34pm
Hi all i need your help again.

I am having a few minor issues with my 1996 2.3 manual estate.

The problem being is the car starts first time in the morning and idles fine but as soon as i go to pull away from my house it just seems to hold back and cough splutter and jump down the road as soon as i get 500 yards it runs sweet as a nut.

i have had the inlet manifold replaced to to a crack and i have after reading a few threads on here checked and repaired/replaced some of the engine bay wiring loom around the rear of the engine which all now seems fine this fault was doing it before i did the wiring so i would asume i haven't connected anything incorrectly.

Can anyone offer any advice to what maybe causing the problem and hopefully a cure ??????????? or has anyone got the same problem ????????

you guys haven't failed me yet  ;)

Regards

Keith


Title: Re: My 2.3 Manual hates the cold and wants to kang
Post by TiberiuS on Dec 4th, 2006, 7:57pm
Hi Keith, does it do it if you knock it out of gear or dip the clutch?

Misfire? coil pack? HT lead? Spark plug? Fuel mixture?

Regards, Bruce.

Title: Re: My 2.3 Manual hates the cold and wants to kang
Post by keithtcs on Dec 4th, 2006, 8:07pm
Hi Bruce
If i knock it out of gear the car just idles fine ,i haven't heard it missfire but it feels like it wants to,also it seems to pull better if i put my foot down a bit but when i slow down coughs and splutters again as i said this lasts for no more than half a mile and as soon as it just warms up a little there is no problem so guess its not a major problem ???? ???
cheers
Keith

Title: Re: My 2.3 Manual hates the cold and wants to kang
Post by TiberiuS on Dec 4th, 2006, 8:16pm
Keith, the reason I say misifre is that I had a similar thing a while back, I'd start the car from cold and it'd feel like it wanted to misfire although it wouldn't, like a rev limiter acting at dile speed if you get me. As soon as it started to warm it'd clear and be fine, was cured when I put the new loom in.

Regards, Bruce.

Title: Re: My 2.3 Manual hates the cold and wants to kang
Post by scorpio_man on Dec 4th, 2006, 8:22pm
hi there

could be temp sensor problem. the ecu might be fooled into thinking the engine is warm. :-/

check the dash reset for what the sensor is outputting.
dash reset (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/instreset.htm)

hth

Title: Re: My 2.3 Manual hates the cold and wants to kang
Post by keithtcs on Dec 4th, 2006, 8:24pm
Hi Bruce,
Sounds like a very simular thing and the way you have described is pretty dam close,i have checked the wiring around the rear top of the engine and repaired and replaced some of the degraded wiring but is there anything i may have missed ??
cheers
Keith

Title: Re: My 2.3 Manual hates the cold and wants to kang
Post by keithtcs on Dec 4th, 2006, 8:29pm
thanks hth
i will test that if its ok can you offer any other advice ???
cheers keith

Title: Re: My 2.3 Manual hates the cold and wants to kang
Post by TiberiuS on Dec 4th, 2006, 8:31pm
Hi Keith, you could try the HT leads as they can start to crack inside with age; if you've put on a new loom and it runs fine the rest of the time it's unlikely to be the loom at fault.

Scorpio man's idea about a bad sensor sounds likely.

hth = hope this helps ;)

Regards, Bruce.


Title: Re: My 2.3 Manual hates the cold and wants to kang
Post by keithtcs on Dec 4th, 2006, 8:38pm
Thanks again Bruce and hth
i will try dash test thing i guess it is as easy as holding the mileage reset button down for a few secs ?? i better read the idiot proof instructions
cheers Keith

Title: Re: My 2.3 Manual hates the cold and wants to kang
Post by keithtcs on Dec 4th, 2006, 8:53pm
right i have just done the dash test and the En9t reading when the engine is cold reads 255 is that about right and was i testing the right thing ??
cheers keith

Title: Re: My 2.3 Manual hates the cold and wants to kang
Post by Highlander on Dec 4th, 2006, 9:00pm
Yep thats the right one, does it drop when the engine heats up?

Title: Re: My 2.3 Manual hates the cold and wants to kang
Post by keithtcs on Dec 4th, 2006, 9:14pm
right i have just taken the car for a drive and when i checked the En9 t when i returned it was reading 149 and the temp gauge was just below half way so i guess that means it is ok ????

cheers keith

Title: Re: My 2.3 Manual hates the cold and wants to kang
Post by RichardMS on Dec 4th, 2006, 10:01pm

on 12/04/06 at 20:29:08, keithtcs wrote:
thanks hth
i will test that if its ok can you offer any other advice ???
cheers keith

Keith,  HTH= Hope this (or that) helps, It is not scorpio mans name ;D ;)

Title: Re: My 2.3 Manual hates the cold and wants to kang
Post by keithtcs on Dec 4th, 2006, 10:08pm
lol i see what you mean Richard ooooooops sorry scorpio man what a plonker
keith

Title: Re: My 2.3 Manual hates the cold and wants to kang
Post by RichardMS on Dec 4th, 2006, 10:44pm
Never mind, we all have to learn ;D
Bookmark this page for future ref, http://www.netlingo.com/emailsh.cfm

hth, lol ;)

Title: Re: My 2.3 Manual hates the cold and wants to kang
Post by TiberiuS on Dec 5th, 2006, 12:46am
I remember the days when I honestly believed lol meant something I would get banned for if I typed it on here ;)

I always joke if someone asks me 'what is lol', I say:

'It means love of life mate' ::) :D

So you can laugh out loud or ROFL (roll on the floor laughing ;D) at me too, we all have something new to learn mate ;)

Regards, Bruce.

Title: Re: My 2.3 Manual hates the cold and wants to kang
Post by keithtcs on Dec 10th, 2006, 9:09pm
hi all,well seems like no one has any further ideas to why the car is doing what it does ????????  it still doing it so any further info apart from what has already been mentioned would be most helpful .all the best keith



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