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(Message started by: reflector on Dec 29^th, 2006, 1:18pm)

Title: old scorpio wont start
Post by reflector on Dec 29^th, 2006, 1:18pm

While driving the car it was driving well when it suddenly lost power and cut out now wont start. Called AA but sent out recovery he checked for spark at plugs and for fuel at injectors both there he then said it is more involved and took us home.still wont start any ideas please ive checked the fuses listed Its a 2.0ltr dohc auto
many thanks

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by scorpio_man on Dec 29^th, 2006, 1:27pm

hi there

just to be clear, is your car a scorpio (mk4 froggy) or a granada scorpio?

big difference if the later.

hth

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by reflector on Dec 29^th, 2006, 1:36pm

sorry its a 94 granada scorpio but some of the features look the same as the newer scorpios

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by scorpio_man on Dec 29^th, 2006, 1:50pm

hi there

you'll get more help over on granada & scorpio online for your car. this forum's for the '95 onward. :)

to me, it could be this (http://www.granada-and-scorpio-online.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12610) or this (http://www.granada-and-scorpio-online.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12675).

hth

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by a900one on Dec 29^th, 2006, 2:23pm

Try the cutout switch in the boot slam panel, I have had to strip one in the past as water had got inside.

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by reflector on Dec 29^th, 2006, 2:49pm

hi scorpio man
thanks for info. Was looking for a site but could only find this one Will look into it thanks again

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by reflector on Dec 29^th, 2006, 2:51pm

a900one
will take a look but i do have fuel at front of motor

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by sector-9 on Dec 30^th, 2006, 1:31am

Doubt it'll be this but check compression - if it's got fuel and sparks then it should run unless no compression - hopefully not caused by timing chain failure!

Darren

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by reflector on Jan 1^st, 2007, 6:27pm

Hi Darren
I tried to check for compression then found that the spark plugs must have fitted by a miner. Have not got a long extention to reach them. I will try again as it seems to be a more logical next check than the immobilizer.

thanks
Baz

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by reflector on Jan 1^st, 2007, 6:49pm

Hey Scorpio man
Have just reread your message, have just found the links referred to in this or this. ?the immobilizer is not a press button so i'm thinking that mine has been swapped because i have to physically put my key fob to the switch on the dash which allows me to start the car. second link CPS he says he has no spark has to be worth a look if i haveone on car.
any way thanks for your time.
baz

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by reflector on Jan 13^th, 2007, 11:56pm

thank you very much for putting up with a mk 3 owner but i'm glad to say that i'm now a proud owner of a 2.0ltr ultimar.
Unfortunately it has a few probs which I'm sure you good people can help me sort.
This motor cost me 25 pounds because the previous owner couldn't be bothered to replace a water pump. Thats a good buy!!!

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by Baz on Jan 14^th, 2007, 12:45am

£25.00?? :o

I spend more than that on breakfast!! That is a bargain.

Do we get some photos now?

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by harry.m1byt on Jan 14^th, 2007, 9:09am

I think he ommited a zero ;D

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by Matt on Jan 14^th, 2007, 9:50am

Quote:

I think he ommited a zero

maybe not, Baz, didnt you pick up a 2.3 facelift (nonrunner) for £70 odd?

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by Baz on Jan 14^th, 2007, 12:01pm

£150 it was actually.... but I sold the back lights for £160.00!!

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by Scorpius on Jan 14^th, 2007, 6:53pm

I once brought a Facelift Mk111 2.0l that wouldn't start and it was the CAS. (Crank angle sensor). £5 to buy and 1/2 max to fit.
Well done on the Scorpio. What probs are you having with it?

Ian

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by reflector on Jan 14^th, 2007, 8:09pm

Hi Guys
Thanks for your messages and Harry it was £25. Now I have a problem I do not have a manual so if I ask this Question do need to start a new Thread or can I continue from here

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by Simmo on Jan 14^th, 2007, 8:17pm

The handbook details are HERE (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/handbook.htm) if that is what you are after.

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by reflector on Jan 14^th, 2007, 8:21pm

Hi Ian
One problem I have is no heating. It has a/c but not working, that I do know because the pump is u/s and has been bi-passed on the pulley, but would the heaters still work or is it a/c run to warm the car.
any answers gratefully received thanks
baz

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by Simmo on Jan 14^th, 2007, 8:25pm

Read THIS (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/aircon2.htm) and check out the links down the side as well.

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by Scorpius on Jan 14^th, 2007, 9:14pm

Oh hell, I am in the same boat there regarding no heat.
there are loads of threads in the forum on the subject and it seems its worth flushing the heater first, but most likely its the heat exchanger gone.
Either way, the AC system should not stop the heater working. I have had these cars before where the AC ewas out but heaters were fine.
Use the "search" function at the top of the page to search the forums for heater and AC related problems that other members have had.

What engine size is yours?

Ian

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by reflector on Jan 16^th, 2007, 6:30pm

hi ian
My engine size is 2.0ltr .The query relates to the fact that i have no heater blower and i thought it might be connected to A/C so if they work independant i have to start looking elsewhere. thanks for your reply I'll start seaching forum for possibilities
baz

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by Scorpius on Jan 16^th, 2007, 9:39pm

Ah, sorry, my bad.

The blower motor is known to get noisy and then stop, but it could be something else. Have you checked the obvious like fuses/relays?

Ian

Title: Re: old scorpio wont start
Post by Simmo on Jan 16^th, 2007, 10:12pm

Try reading THIS (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/fanrepair.htm). The blower motor can be accessed initially by removing the HBC unit and spraying some WD40 in there. Someone did this recently and it certainly quietened the motor. If you have Climate Control you should read through THIS (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/aircon.htm). Particularly the re-set procedure and testing the HBC.