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Title: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by Terje on Feb 22nd, 2007, 2:19am So, im still working on my car (wich has been a big desapointment) A Ford Scorpio 95 2.0 DOCH station vagon. After fixing the heater blower fan and issues with my cooling fans (partially fixed) I now are facing a much bigger problem. I live in Norway, the weather where i live is a little creazy jumping from +5 c to -15 c in the same day. I have always been careful and have always filled up with condense remover when the wether has been like this. My problems appair espechially when there has been alot of air humidity leaving the car very hard to start, and when it starts it can suddenly stop after a while, even when im driving and try to prevent the stop by using my gears it can stop. This occures very often. Also the car engine looses power, espechially when accelerating. I cant hurry out before other cars in sections etc anymore. This do not occure as often as above. Now the problems are only getting worse and worse, so bad that the other day my car could not drive up any kind of hills and on a strait road i could only drive at 20 kmph .. If i pushed to car to over 2000rpm it would stop. Note that the engine got very hot during this (not boiling but not far from red on the gauge) It ended up with that i had to leave the car right there and walk home. This all seems like a severe condence problem, but it's worth noting that I had just filled the car up with gas, to the top and poored condense remover in the gas, so im thinking that there should not be much condense in the system ? But on the other hand this was done the same day as i had to leave the car. To sum it up Car stops if i push it over 2000rpms Car gets very hot There has been very shifting wether here latelly +5c / -15c in the same day. car is not accelerating as it should (when it runs pretty much normal) If air humidity is high the car has almost all of the above problems. Car is very hard to start, sometimes so hard to start that i drain my battery of power. In the summertime when raining it shows pretty much the same symptoms, but things has newer been as bad as they are right now. What excactly can it be? or where is the condense?, what can I do to remove the symptoms ? |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power. Post by tintin on Feb 22nd, 2007, 2:52am fpr? |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power. Post by Terje on Feb 22nd, 2007, 2:57am on 02/22/07 at 02:52:42, tintin wrote:
What is fpr ? Edit: aha Fuel pressure regulator. Looking at the Fault Finder it seems so to me to. Also the stuff about the drain holes around the fuse boxes might seem relevant. Another edit: I just realised it can be a big varaity of things, Faulty loom, Fuel pressure regulator, condense/water in fuseboxes, Catalyst, Lost TPS position and more. It's pretty much like an lottery, wich part should I buy and replace with first? |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power. Post by jonnycab on Feb 22nd, 2007, 3:19am From what you've said, then the car may have more than one problem :-/ If it's getting very hot, then I would first change the thermostat to see if there is any improvement. Also your cooling fans may still not be working efficiently. Regarding the the car loosing power & being hard to start in high humidity, then it could be the ignition loom, plugs, HT leads or coil packs getting damp. Do you have the engine top cover fitted ? Could also be a fuel delivery problem...ie, fuel pump/filter, fuel rail pressure regulator or the injectors. I'm sure you've had this advice before....but I would advise you get a full diagnostic scan if you can, because there seems to be an array of problems which I don't think would be caused by just one particular thing :) No doubt someone else will be along soon to offer a bit more & maybe different advice....so fingers crossed :) Good luck ;) |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power. Post by Terje on Feb 22nd, 2007, 3:27am hmm, no I don't have any top cover, but reading the fusebox thingy Topcovers only apply to cars built after 96 ? maby I missunderstood, but if you are meaning the cover over my battery i do not have one. I also beleive that this is not my only problem with the car, i would goto a repairshop and get a full diagnostic check if i could afford it, but unfortuantly i can't right now. . But anyway, I'll keep my fingers crossed as you suggest :) thanks for your reply |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power. Post by jonnycab on Feb 22nd, 2007, 3:32am I meant the cover on top of the engine which covers the coils, HT leads & loom :) But as you say, you have no battery cover......then that could well be the problem.....with no battery cover water can easily get into the fusebox & also drip down onto the ECU if there is a hole under the battery. All sorts of weird things can happen then ;) |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power. Post by Terje on Feb 22nd, 2007, 3:46am Ok, well that cover i do have, now I agree that no battery cover might be a big problem.. Come to think of it theres often been water/condense inside the auxilery fusebox lid top, where the diagram of the fuses are, it's been condensed, not much but theres small drops of water, This is probably a very good indication that there's condense inside the fusebox ? or is this normal with some condense on the top ? If it's most likelly the fusebox that is causing my problems, what do I do about it? |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power. Post by jonnycab on Feb 22nd, 2007, 4:05am It's not normal to have condensation in the fusebox cover....this means there is water in the fusebox :o It's a fair assumption to say that the wet fusebox is causing the problems that you are having. I've never had a problem with a wet fusebox, but others have. Someone else with more knowledge could advise you better :) No doubt, in the morning, you will get some good advice ;) |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by Terje on Feb 22nd, 2007, 4:13am Ok, well i'll wait then :) But thanks for clarifying that, I had the impression that some condense in the fusebox cover was normal, don't ask me why but that just made sense to me, as it is such a "closed" area that the major temprature differences there can be here simply would cause condense even there.. Well anyway, this sure could explain alot of my other problems to, so im actually hoping that this is the problem, atleast theres only one part to replace/repair ... I study'd the "fusebox repair" manual, that is definantly to advanced for me :) (for most I would beleive) |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by jonnycab on Feb 22nd, 2007, 4:33am Good luck Terje....but I still reckon the overheating is due to faulty thermostat ;) If you want one, then I've a couple of spare ones (used, but fine).....PM me your address & I'll send one over :) |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by scorpio_man on Feb 22nd, 2007, 8:04am hi there re the drop in power and temp issue. it could be the cat blocking the exhaust. when my cat went, it blocked the exhaust and at times foot flat to the floor was 30mph! give it a hit and see if it rattles. btw, i didn't have any temp issue at the time, so you need to look at this as well. hth |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by Spannerdemon on Feb 22nd, 2007, 11:34am Check your ECU and make sure the pins and the plug are dry. It's under the glovebox. ;) |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by Geoff_W on Feb 22nd, 2007, 1:16pm Damp electrics is never good but it actually does sound like a cat and as Andrew and Jonnycab says thermostat |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by Terje on Feb 22nd, 2007, 4:42pm Here's an update. I went down and tryed to start my car, at idle it runned like a charm, no problems, now when i tryed to rise the RPM a little it started running worse, trying different RPM's gave different result, as soon as i got over 3000rpm it started "cuaghing" and was very erratic and rpm was forced down to under 1000 rpm, If i flored it the car would eventually stop. there was no difference what so ever when engine was cold or when engine was hot. Also, the smoke coming out from the exhaust was black as night and very smelly, and full of co2, I accidentaly put my girlfriends car behind mine, after i had been testing it for a while i got back to my girlfriends car, inside there was so much smoke and co2 so i had to drive with the window down for a good while. Also i did hear a high frequent sound i havent heard before. I called the previous owner (finally got hold of he's phone number) and asked if he had any of the problems i described, no he had not, but he could remember something that happend during the summer right before i bought the car, it was that suddenly one day he discovered that there was some sort of a fiber cloth hanging out of the end of the Exhaust pipe, the fiber thingy was dark grey, and very difficult to pull out of the exhaust pipe. Well he apparently removed what he could, he did not think about it any more, he simply tought that some kids probably where out to make problems for hem, he did not beleive it be something from the exhoust it selves. So i guess i must exhange the whole exhoust system ? or only the catalyst or what do you think ? |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by scorpio_man on Feb 22nd, 2007, 4:51pm hi there looks like the answer. cat's gone. you need to take the exhaust off and see if you can shake the cat 'bricks' out of it. same with the cat itself. you'll need to get a new cat for a MOT test (if your country has one). hth |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by Terje on Feb 22nd, 2007, 5:08pm Well, i guess i will test with removing the exhaust system right before the cat and start the engine first, if it runs normal maby im in luck and i dont need to replace the cat, but i doubt it. replacing the cat seems like to technical for me to handle so i think i'll turn it into an repair shop.. |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by scorpio_man on Feb 22nd, 2007, 5:15pm hi there the bit's that were being pulled out of the exhaust is the cat! see how you get on with clearing the exhaust and let us know. hth |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by TiberiuS on Feb 22nd, 2007, 5:16pm With the temperature problem, check whether the rad hoses are getting hot and whether the cooling fans switch on. Damp electrics can cause a problem but it'd be more misfire and error codes I'd have thought - if the engine is getting 'choked', it sounds like the cat from what you've found but you could also check the fuel pressure at the injector rail, bad regulator or pump/filters would choke the engine at higher RPMs and kill power output...just had similar myself. Good luck :) Regards, Bruce. |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by Terje on Feb 27th, 2007, 12:01am Hi guys.. Thanks for all the help so far. Ok, so I have now cleared out the exhaust, and the problem is still there. Now Im thinking next logic step would be to exchange the Fuel Pressure regulator, but im not to sure what part to replace.. I found a part that seems to be the correct one, but I jus want to make sure. It says "Weber - Made in Italy" on the part. Please check the image below and see if i have marked the correct part. http://www.stalker-zone.com/ford/fpr.jpg Also, the other part marked can unscrew, should I replace that one to while im at it ? (seems to be a regulator of some sort to, possibly for vaakum) ------ Finally about 30 cm back (toward the front) of the marked weber part and a little to the left there is some other part connected to a multiplug, the part is about 4 cm big and seem to have some transparant plastic on it. See the picture below (bad quality unfortuantly).. Question, What part is that ?, should i replace that to ? http://www.stalker-zone.com/ford/what_part.jpg If anyone could help me out I would really apprishiate it. |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by Terje on Feb 27th, 2007, 2:16am Ok, I think maby the last picture is the Trottle Position Sensor (?), but where is the FPR ? :P |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by Terje on Feb 27th, 2007, 6:23pm Ok,, Just wanted to update a little here. This is what I have done so far - Dryed out both fuseboxes with a hairblower for 30 minuttes each - Removed leafs and stuff from the drainholes (There was alot of it blocking the holes) - Disconnected my car battery for 30 minuttes and then replacing it with a brand new - Poored in some condense remover in the gas tank. - Cleaned up a part that sits all the way in the front (where the lock mechanism for the hood is) that where connected to the air hooses and a multiplug, this part when unscrewing it to peices where really dirty, i cleaned it up as good as i could. It doesent look anything like the MAF (or whatever it's called) atleast nothing like the pictures i've seen here. - Cleaned up the TPS and it's connectors... - Cleaned up the part seen in picture 1 above the "What function is that one" this part is some sort of air regulator, engine would still run with it removed, anyway the "needle" inside the part was incredible dirty, i sprayed it with carburator cleaner, got it all shiny and put it back in. I also cleaned connectors. - Cleaned a part that the part above was connected to, seems like some sort of heating sensor, unscrewed it, that part to was dirty, it's copper but one could hardly see that it was... got it all shiny and screwed it back in. Now i'm sure i have forgotten something, but basicly i've cleened up every part accsessable for me that I beleive somehow is related to the fuel, with exceptions of the injectors, fule pressure regulator and the "Weber - Made in Italy" part. Now after all this i decided to give it a try, tryed starting up the engine, The problems where still there but now I was able to get a RPM over 2000... I got upto 5000 stable without engine stopping, but it now stopped at idle, after about 15 minuttes it even stopped when i had high RPM.. The engine could in example run at 3000 very stable, then it was like someone removed the powersource (light where speedometer is disapaired for half a second) and engine stopped. I decided to take it for a drive in the nabourhood area, so i did and the car where stopping randomly (low rpm or high did not matter) I had problems starting again, it usually took about 5 tryes with 5 seconds pause in between, this went on for an hour, i decided enough was enough, finally managed to get the car back home and it stopped by it selves.. I took a ciggarette break and started the car after, wow suddenly it runned at idle without stopping!! Ok so I decided to take it for a spin again, no problems what so ever, not even a hickup, Idle fine... Accellerating fine... Ok so i decided to see what happend if i pushed the car a little and got it really hot.. I drove around the nighbourhood on high rpm, it started getting hotter, then it stopped getting hotter when the gauge where just above half. I drove around for 40 minuttes without any problems, when parking at home the engine did not even stop (as it has been doing latelly). What is up ? I don't understand it, have i fixed it? Might it have been the condense remover ? Did I resett the ECU when exchanging the car battery and now that it's finnished reprogramming itselves, everything is fine? I will check tomorrow again, if it takes a hour to get it to run normally I guess anything of what i have done so far has been for nothing. |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by TiberiuS on Feb 27th, 2007, 6:34pm Hello Terje. Looking at your pictures, that isn't the 2.0 16v Zetec engine we have in the UK - are you sure it's a bug eye Scorpio or is it an 8v? A: looks like it could be the FPR, the rubber vacuum tube normally connects to the inlet manifold, should be one or two fuel hoses connected (one if it goes straight into the fuel rail). If there's a test nipple on the rail you can test the pressure yourself as it could also be the pump or fuel filter starving the engine and making it stumble. Last picture looks to me like the TPS, normally it's on the lower part of the throttle body, it fits on to a lug or similar on the end of the throttle quadrant shaft (the throttle butterfly shaft). TPS can be tested with an ohmmeter or better a voltmeter if you have the correct voltages, should be a nice even sweep accross the scale on an anologue meter with no erratic jumps or drops of the needle. Good luck mate ;) Regards, Bruce. |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by Kjetil S on Feb 27th, 2007, 7:01pm Bruce, fyi, Ford sold a few 8v bug-eyes too ;D |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by TiberiuS on Feb 27th, 2007, 7:05pm I know mate but I didn't think the 8v was a DOHC...we all live an learn ;) |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by Terje on Feb 27th, 2007, 7:27pm Ok so this is a very spechial car :) Well to be honest I have no clue what version I have, if it's 8v or 16v, No idea. The TPS is cleaned, The Weber Part will be replaced, I only have to get hold of it first. I will check with a voltage meter to the TPS tomorrow. But how comes it runs normal after strugling for a hour ? Can it really be the FPR then ? .. Atleast I feel it rules out the Catalyst, running normal at 130 kmph should give some sort of problems if the catalyst where somehow blocking up the exhaust system. I have a feeling that it must be something with a sensor, maby a sensor is missreading somehow, telling the ECU that the car is hot when it's actually not.. then when the car is as hot as where the sensor reading is it's running normal?? Can it be something stupid like that? Incase, what sensor? the heating sensor for the fuel system ? Sorry, many stupid questions from me, but if you knew me you would actually be impressed by what i have accomplished on the car so far, because I am really terrible as a mechanick.. he he. Anyway, A big thank you to all that have followed up on my problems. |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by TiberiuS on Feb 27th, 2007, 7:54pm Terje, if the FPR goes faulty, sometimes the little rubber diaphragm splits and fills the inlet manifold with fuel through the vacuum pipe...but I don't think you'd get it started again if that happened ;) If the FPR is going bad, sometimes it will let the pressure drop too far and starve the engine or jam and let the pressure go too high and flood the injectors, hard to say until you've eliminated it. I agree with you though, sounds very much like a sensor or electrical issue - worth testing the TPS but I doubt this would give you the amount of problems you've been having. I'm also thinking about the EGR system as I know that causes a lot of grief to our American friends but no idea how that works, sorry ::) Good luck :) Regards, Bruce. |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by Highlander on Feb 27th, 2007, 8:24pm Hmmm i think this is actually a UK Granada (Scorpio in Europe) Do you have a pic of the car Terje? That engine isnt fitted in any 95-98 Scorpio Here is a pic of a UK Scorpio 8v engine http://i9.tinypic.com/4dlvlue.jpg |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by Terje on Feb 27th, 2007, 8:32pm Thanks alot, I will check out the TPS, i'll go to the dealer and buy a new one, seems to be a affordable part. I just took the car for another trip (this time a short one, 10 minuttes).. beeing that it was 5 hours since my last trip it should be coold again. The car started on first try, it runned very nicely on idle, I started driving approxomarly 3 minuttes later it started doing very small hickups, 5 or 6, then it stopped doing that and runned nicely for the remainer of the trip (about 5 minuttes) When parking the car again it runned very nice on idle.. So, maby if I am very lucky I have solved it.. If I have I beleive it to be the cleaning of the MAF (it must have been the maf, only that it looks so very different in my car) and the heating sensor that helped. Alltough it's hard to say excactly what it was that helped, since I have actually done so much on the car today. It could even be that it was the last bottle of condense remover that helped, even tough I had previoussly filled up with one. But, i find it wierd tough.. since the car actually seemed to shortcut for about half a second during my problems when it came to a stop. hmm, maby it was drying out the fuseboxes with the hairblower that did the trick even tough they seemed to be dry, hmm when thinking about it, that seems most likelly since the car seemed to shortcut. If the problem comes back I will try to repeat the procedure I did when drying the fuseboxes. Anyway, I have cleaned out the drainholes, I will try to get hold of the battery cover, but is there anything else I can do to prevent any water coming into the fuseboxes ? or even so far down as the ECU |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by Terje on Feb 27th, 2007, 11:16pm on 02/27/07 at 20:24:23, Highlander wrote:
I'll add one tomorrow, but here is one looking excactly as mine: http://www.zett.no/bil__til_salgs.html?objectId=669025 (mine is blue) This is a 94 model, but mine is a 95, or atleast that's what it says in my registration papers. Edit: Well mine must be a 94, not 95 as it says in the registration papers. DOHC 2.0 I Classic is a 94 according to some information I found (in norwegian) so No wonder im not finding the green relay by the headlight that i've been looking for :) Well ok, now we atleast have established that :) sorry about that mistake, but I simply took the info in my papers as beeing correct.. It's possible it was released on the Norwegian market as a 95 model, but in reality it was a 94 model.. That's quite common after what I have heard |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by Highlander on Feb 27th, 2007, 11:34pm Yep thats a Granada over here :) |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by Nilsy on Mar 2nd, 2007, 9:12pm Hi there Terje. My name is Nils, and I have exactly the same trouble with exactly the same car as you. 1995 Ford Scorpio, 2.0L Station Wagon. Basically, the car was going fantastic since I bought it last summer, but around December time, when the temperature changed (as you also mentioned) the car decided to act like condensation was the biggest problem this side of the hemispehere! Anyway, I also had a full tank og petrol and had filled condesation removal fluid etc, as preventative measures due to crazy temp changes up here (just outside of Oslo). So, I called Falken. They towed me home, and the next day, everything was fine again. Typical condense. Or so I thought... Despite condense fluid etc, the car went crazy, and refused to go over around 2000 rpm, before showing again extreme "condense" trouble. Suddenly, next day, all fine again. A trip to the shops, and again temperature around zero celsius, and "shock" extreme condense trouble, and the car refused to budge. Called Falken again. This time they took it with them to their shop, to check it out. They had an apprentice there, who could look at it, who happened to be fully educated in cars stuff. Alas, he found nothing wrong with the car! So, they dropped it off at Ford for me. After nearly 2 weeks Ford called me, and said they are stumped, as they can't find a singel thing wrong with the car ANYWHERE! Not only that, but the car is working fine again. Hehe, so I get the car back, and Ford say they won't take pay for the time they have used, as there is obviously something wrong, but they can't find it. Also that since I had bought it from them the previous summer, they said this is also partly their responsibility. Great service! However, 3 days went by, and "bang" same trouble! Took it back to Ford. They said, they have spoken internally about this problem, and had dug up the history on the car. All the fuel pipes, channels, filters, leads, plugs etc etc, are already changed and new! So it appears the previous owner had been struggeling with the same stuff. So Ford says, the ONLY thing all their theories come back to is the Fuse box. They said that the Fuse box is lined with circuit boards etc in layers, and if there comes condensation into this area, that could be causing the trouble. Of course, they said they are not sure, but everything else is checked out from the problem. So they have ordered a new Fuse box, that arrived yesterday (Thursday 1 March), and they will be putting that in probably Monday. I'll let you know how it goes!oU figure it out from your end, let me know... :) |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by Nilsy on Mar 2nd, 2007, 9:19pm PS, I also tried the hairdryer over the fusebox solution... Didn't help though... The other stuff you mention, black smoke etc, I recon is due to some other problem. I do not have temperature trouble. For me, this condensation "thing" is extremely isolated. So, from my perspective I would guess that your apparent condensation trouble has nothing to do with the temperature of the engine etc. However, I could be wrong... I have been wrong before... I believe in 1972... (hehe)- ;D |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by Terje on Mar 3rd, 2007, 12:35am Hei Nils :) Please let me know if changing the fusebox helps, also wich fusebox they exchanged. My car is still having some problems, espechially at cold starts now (so that's changed actually) When it's cold i have to try starting the car for about 5 minuttes. To be excact that seems to be on days like today where it's been raining here. For the first 15 minuttes today the car where missfireing on i had a couple of engine stops (started again on gear) Did ford check your ECU ? can you ask them if they did ? did they check the Fuel Pressure Regulator? |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by jonnycab on Mar 3rd, 2007, 4:13am This is turning out to be long post, & starting to become a confusing mish-mash of suggested faults, that don't seem to solve the problem. In an earlier post (page 2), you said that the car had a slight hiccup which seemed to dissappear. From personal experience, I have found that slight hiccups are usually down to an ignition problem (i did point this out very early in the post). Usually a faulty coil will cause this problem, but plugs & leads can also be the culprits. I'm not very familiar with the Granada engine that you seem to have in your Scorp, so I am not sure whether there are two coil packs or one single coil pack, or even just a single coil. You also said that you live in an area that suffers from high humidity....I assume you mean it's very wet where you live ;) Dampness will affect the ignition on a cold engine, but if it still hiccups when hot then I would suspect the coil(s) :) Sorry if this has all ready been suggested & tried....but as I said....It's a long post, & starting to get a bit confusing ;) |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by Nilsy on Mar 3rd, 2007, 10:56am A tricky problem does take time yes... :-/ My coil is new (December 2006). All plugs and leads are also new (approx feb 2006). Fuel pump etc in perfect working order! Ford has checked every part and hose that has any direct or indirect connection with fuel access. They also changed out every visible component in the Fusebox. NO faulty mechanical parts anywhere. All tests at the Authentic Ford dealer here show no faults anywhere, and they have checked everything! The testing time alone (!) would have normally been priced to around kr 11,500,- (about £ 1,500,-). By "humidity" we mean an outside temperature change that gives condensation trouble. This happens especially when the weather changes from minus to plus degrees, but also on wet/damp cold days (again around zero Celcius). My Scorpio has an automatic transmission, so that's the only difference I can tell between mine and Terjes' car. PS, I will ask Ford on Monday if they have checked the ECU, I assume they have. |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by Highlander on Mar 3rd, 2007, 7:11pm Jonny its a Granada he has. It was only here in the UK that Ford called the 85-94 model a Granada, it was known as the Scorpio in the rest of Europe, hence the confusion |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by jonnycab on Mar 4th, 2007, 1:26am Might be a good idea to put a posting on this site then...... http://www.granada-and-scorpio-online.com/ |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by Nilsy on Mar 5th, 2007, 4:43pm Latest update... Ford changed the Fusebox,,, and "shock" - no change! The car was still jerking around. However, on a hunch from one of the service guys there, they looked under some metal casing, which has some cables and stuff in it. And they discovered trouble here! They said it looked like battery acid had run into this area, and the leads had been corroded so the wires are exposed. Obviously leading to short circuit trouble. They are now working on getting new wires there, but it is tricky stuff even for them to actually get to. I am not sure exactly where this is located, but I will ask them, and take some pictures of it for you. -Assuming of course that this is the fix. ;) |
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Title: Re: Engine stops/looses power/fusebox? Post by Nilsy on Mar 9th, 2007, 8:10pm Ok, seems Ford fixed it. The problem was in the fat group of cables coming from underneath the battery. When they opened the seal to this, the wires had been corroded, apparently from battery acid. So, because of the positioning of this, each cable had to be changed out one at a time. However, this seems to have worked. I got the car back today, and it is perfect condense type weather, but zero trouble. Can't figure out how to stick pictures in this Forum to show you exactly. But roughly explained, from the battery, there runs several cables of various sizes. The fatest one of these is the one to fix. |
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