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(Message started by: swiss tony on Feb 26th, 2007, 9:10pm)

Title: Is my engine DEAD?
Post by swiss tony on Feb 26th, 2007, 9:10pm
Hi all, bad things have happened.
Last night driving down motorway the engine juddered and smoked then lost all power and started missfiring. 40 min later friendly AA man confirmed it was running on 3 cylinders b****r! he mentioned that it could be a dropped valve but obviously without looking he's just guessing. So got towed home and started to think .
About a week previously i started the car and it sounded terrible, so i took the rocker cover off and found one of the pushrods had come out! so i replaced it and tightened them up . I will have a look in the morning and see if anything is amiss.
Any words of wisdom would be VERY appreciated ???

Title: Re: Is my engine DEAD?
Post by Matt on Feb 26th, 2007, 9:22pm
what engine is it?

Title: Re: Is my engine DEAD?
Post by Highlander on Feb 26th, 2007, 10:56pm
Sounds like the diesel if its got pushrods  ;D

Title: Re: Is my engine DEAD?
Post by taliban on Feb 26th, 2007, 11:01pm
aye, the vm diesel is a bit known for that.

Title: Re: Is my engine DEAD?
Post by swiss tony on Feb 27th, 2007, 3:53pm
Yep its a 95 2.5 tdi with 140,000 on the clock

Title: Re: Is my engine DEAD?
Post by swiss tony on Feb 27th, 2007, 6:34pm
Just took the rocker cover off and one of the push rods has come out again! this time on a different cylinder. It has also snapped one side of the metal strap that holds the rocker in place. I suppose this is good news in a way (i thought a cylinder was trashed!) any thoughts why this keeps happening?
cheers

Title: Re: Is my engine DEAD?
Post by taliban on Feb 27th, 2007, 9:45pm
this is a trait of the vm engine, but i dont know what the cause is, other than that they're pretty bullet proof.
steve savill (07761246096) a breakers in essex has a couple of td engines in if you need bits, one of which has only done 73k, im going over there monday. quite a few people on here slate steve cos of his prices which are more expensive than getting bits from members on here, but, you have to remember its he's business not a hobby, i've always had good deals from him and he's always open to offers....

Title: Re: Is my engine DEAD?
Post by Highlander on Feb 27th, 2007, 10:01pm
thats as maybe but a lot of his second hand parts are more expensive than FMD new parts!!  ;D

Still if people are willing to pay those prices then good luck to him  ;D

Title: Re: Is my engine DEAD?
Post by taliban on Feb 27th, 2007, 10:34pm
i've never found that, and i've always had a good deal on stuff from him, like i say, get chatting to him and he'll do a deal....

Title: Re: Is my engine DEAD?
Post by Highlander on Feb 27th, 2007, 11:49pm
Not with me he didnt, he was quite off with me even though i offered to buy a facelift bumper at some over inflated price and travel from Scotland to collect it.

Title: Re: Is my engine DEAD?
Post by taliban on Feb 28th, 2007, 6:30pm
scotland hadnt just beaten england in some sporting event had they?

Title: Re: Is my engine DEAD?
Post by Highlander on Feb 28th, 2007, 8:17pm
Yeah probably ;)

Title: Re: Is my engine DEAD?
Post by sector-9 on Mar 1st, 2007, 6:43pm
I'm guessing, but I'd say that the push-rod is coming out because the hydraulic tappet beneath it isn't extending to take up the clearance.  If that's the case then either it's a faulty tappet, or there's a problem with oil flow to it.

Either way I don't envy you as I think the head has to come off to replace the tappet (hope I'm wrong).  Having said that, running some engine flush through and then changing the oil to 15W-40 or thinner may help - I assume it's not running on 20W-50?  ;)

Darren

Title: Re: Is my engine DEAD?
Post by swiss tony on Mar 1st, 2007, 6:47pm
Went down to my local FMD today for a laugh, the bloke was actually quite helpful. I explained what had happened with the aid of my diagram (thanks to this site) he said it could be one of several things and without looking etc etc, anyway i went next door to the parts department and low and behold they didn't have any and couldn't get any . So it looks like i will be scouring the salvage yards for some replacement bits? will keep you posted

Title: Re: Is my engine DEAD?
Post by swiss tony on Mar 1st, 2007, 10:03pm
Cheers Daren think i will try that next fingers crossed :P

Title: Re: Is my engine DEAD?
Post by sector-9 on Mar 2nd, 2007, 8:15pm
Well Rover used the same engine in the 800 series so you could try a Rover dealer...  }{

Seriously, the VM engine was used in many cars including old Range Rovers, the Vauxhall Frontera, Jeep Cherokee, Rover 800, etc, etc.  Many of the newer applications used direct injection so the heads were different, but I think they all used pushrod OHV technology (no need for anything else being as they don't rev that high).

There's also a "VM specialist" in Chesterfield; do a web search and you should find their site - no idea how good they are though, last time I rang they didn't want to give me any info over the phone but wanted me to leave the car with them (and pay for it of course!).

Darren



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