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(Message started by: mrgraves on May 19^th, 2007, 3:09pm)

Title: Non starter
Post by mrgraves on May 19^th, 2007, 3:09pm

hello all

i have a 2.0l 8v which i cant get to start the engine turns but will not engage and there is no spark i have repaired faulty looms as a temperary measure (they were not in the worst condition but are definatly on there way) and all my fuses and relays seem to be in working order (no sign of water damage).

the only other thing i can think of is the coil pack which i can order used for 32 quid

has anyone got any suggestions before i order them please
???

Title: Re: Non starter
Post by tintin on May 19^th, 2007, 4:49pm

hows the fuse boxes? check for damp in there, and also under the glove box. a damp ecu/pats module will disable the car.....

cheers

Title: Re: Non starter
Post by mrgraves on May 19^th, 2007, 5:08pm

the fuse boxes are good all covers are in place and no sign of damp just checked under the glove box that is all dry too ??? ???

Title: Re: Non starter
Post by scorpio_man on May 19^th, 2007, 9:10pm

hi there

hows the battery? the scorpio needs a lot of voltage to start.

have you tried using a different key? do you have the red master key?

hth

Title: Re: Non starter
Post by Highlander on May 19^th, 2007, 11:17pm

Unless both coil packs are done (unlikely) the engine should still give a cough and a splutter, so dont buy them yet.

Pats ok?
EDIS module below the coolant reservoir? can you try another module? loom ok?
Fuel cut off switch in the boot?
Has the battery been off? connected up properly?
Try jump leads as battery can seem ok as Andrew said

Title: Re: Non starter
Post by jonnycab on May 20^th, 2007, 12:13am

Did this happen overnight or has starting the car gradually got worse over time ? :)

Title: Re: Non starter
Post by mrgraves on May 20^th, 2007, 3:28am

it happened over night was running fine the day before - i dont have the red key i brought the car 6 months ago and it only came with one key, the fuel cut off also seems to be ok, and yes the battery has been disconnected since as i drained it trying to solve the problem on the first day it happend

Title: Re: Non starter
Post by Highlander on May 20^th, 2007, 8:30am

Theres a small black cable on the -ve terminal which is easily missed when reconnecting the battery.

Title: Re: Non starter
Post by tintin on May 20^th, 2007, 9:01am

sounds like the car is immobilised, i had exactly the same issue when my ecu/ccm got wet.

check the PATS light on the dash, is it flashing in a pattern/staying on? may be the key has "forgotten", may be the CCM is knacked, may be wiring has been disturbed

hth

Title: Re: Non starter
Post by solarpanel on May 20^th, 2007, 9:05am

my 2.3 did this turned out to be crank sensor wire had broke so if crank and cam sensors dont talk to ecu...... no spark and no engine damage.plus a mate left the cam sensor off his volvo after changing the engine and that would not go either.

Title: Re: Non starter
Post by mrgraves on May 20^th, 2007, 11:59am

thanks guys will have a look today

Title: Re: Non starter
Post by mrgraves on May 20^th, 2007, 11:32pm

still no luck the PATS light indicates everything is fine and i cant find any loose or damaged wiring

i think the next step is to get my hands on some diagnostic gear ive been told theres
hand held system i can get hold of, does anybody know where i can get one and how much please