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(Message started by: cuzza on Sep 17^th, 2007, 9:26pm)

Title: ER FELLAS LOCKED KEYS IN CAR
Post by cuzza on Sep 17^th, 2007, 9:26pm

Well before anybody else says it ...what a pillock ,i have locked keys in scorpio ignition went to lock car (its in garage with bonnet up)but used keys from other scorp, and you know the instant you have done something wrong looked down to see keys still in ignition ....any ideas on getting in without resorting to brut force ???

Title: Re: ER FELLAS LOCKED KEYS IN CAR
Post by Highlander on Sep 17^th, 2007, 10:04pm

Snoopy knows a way to get in without damaging anything, i wonder since the bonnet is up if there is a way to bridge a wire and open doors, windows, sunroof or the boot??

Possibly a 12v feed into one of the terminals of the electric window relay would open a window?

Will have a look

Title: Re: ER FELLAS LOCKED KEYS IN CAR
Post by Highlander on Sep 17^th, 2007, 10:16pm

Right, i think if you run a wire from the +ve terminal (with an inline fuse preferrably) to one of the relay terminals for the elec windows then you should be able to open it... The relay should show a diagram explaining the switching so you can find the correct one.

I'm assuming the power for the windows goes to the door switches then returns to the relay then carries on to the window motor therfore the live feed should effectively bypass the switch?

Heres the relay layout

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/images/central_fusebox.gif R12 = rear door locks

Or you can wait for old Grumpy to come on ;)

Title: Re: ER FELLAS LOCKED KEYS IN CAR
Post by Highlander on Sep 17^th, 2007, 10:25pm

Actually I cant see a relay for electric windows :) is it just me missing something?? or are they in the doors? ;D

EDIT yep they are in the drivers door ;D

Title: Re: ER FELLAS LOCKED KEYS IN CAR
Post by cuzza on Sep 17^th, 2007, 10:32pm

electrics aint my thing will have to wait ;) still fell like a pillock :P

Title: Re: ER FELLAS LOCKED KEYS IN CAR
Post by Highlander on Sep 17^th, 2007, 10:49pm

i've done exactly the same but had a spare key

Title: Re: ER FELLAS LOCKED KEYS IN CAR
Post by mr._floppy on Sep 18^th, 2007, 1:13am

On my old Audi if you took out or replaced the relevant fuse it would lock/unlock the central locking.

Worth jiggering about with No.22 fuse ( central locking ) in the central fuse box ( Drivers side ).

Or, No. 26 fuse ( front windows ) in the central fuse box

Title: Re: ER FELLAS LOCKED KEYS IN CAR
Post by peteHull on Sep 18^th, 2007, 6:24am

Just a thought.... ???

What happens when the battery is disconnected, does the car not default to unlocked seeing as pats would have no supply? ...... interesting situation :-/

Pete

Title: Re: ER FELLAS LOCKED KEYS IN CAR
Post by Snoopy on Sep 18^th, 2007, 7:05am

Email me off site or PM me !

Title: Re: ER FELLAS LOCKED KEYS IN CAR
Post by Pikey on Sep 18^th, 2007, 10:17am

If you're a member of a breakdown organisation - call them. The AA rescued my keys out of the boot of my Mondeo when I locked them in there :)

Title: Re: ER FELLAS LOCKED KEYS IN CAR
Post by cuzza on Sep 26^th, 2007, 7:32pm

Thanks to snoopy for help .....job sorted