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(Message started by: Slipknot on Oct 1^st, 2007, 5:15pm)

Title: Front fog lights.
Post by Slipknot on Oct 1^st, 2007, 5:15pm

Hello guys!
I have 1 problem. My Scorpio has no front fog lights, but i want to put them and get them burnin'....They just don't want to work :o. Any ideas or/and suggestions for what do i have to do? What devices do i need? ???

Thanks anyway!

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by Matt on Oct 1^st, 2007, 7:31pm

Hi

im guessing your car did not have front fog light originally and you have fitted them,

first, have you got the correct headlight switch, i.e. does it pull out 2 notches (front fogs first then rear fogs)

Next, you will need to fit the front fog light relay into the main fuse box (see your owners manual) you also need to install a relay in the cabin just under the steering wheel (again see the owners hand book)

Matt

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by Alastair on Oct 2^nd, 2007, 8:06am

Hi Slipknot
let me know how you get on (a couple of photos would be great). I have front fogs lying on the bench and am just about to get on with the fitting.

Hi Matt
where about in the manual for the additional relays, please, I was kind of hoping that as some cars were fitted with front fogs as standard, the wiring / relays would be tucked away somewhere

Thanks guys

Alastair

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by Slipknot on Oct 2^nd, 2007, 3:24pm

on 10/01/07 at 19:31:50, Matt wrote:

Hello Matt!
Yes, i fitted the correct switch, and the panel too... it notches 2 times and each time starts to burn one indicator for fog lights, first front and te the back.

What is that relay under the steering wheel, how does it looks and how can easyly identify it? Sorry, but i don't have the owners book :(

to Alastair: You have to wait a lil' bit, sorry i don't have the camera at the time....but i'll make them.

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by Simmo on Oct 2^nd, 2007, 5:46pm

The handbook is on the site HERE (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/handbook.htm). Relay 35 which is white and listed as 'underneath the instrument panel' controls the front fog lights. When you select a page from the handbook if you click on the bottom right hand corner the page will enlarge. :)

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by Matt on Oct 2^nd, 2007, 6:13pm

the wireing should be all there and waiting,

the relays will need to be fitted

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/images/handbook132.gif

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/images/handbook134.gif

the above links are the 2 pages in the handbook

Matt :)

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by Slipknot on Oct 2^nd, 2007, 6:24pm

hmmmm interesting :) Thank you very much guys for the usefull information! i'll check it i a few days....i'll tell you the results.

;D

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by Alastair on Oct 3^rd, 2007, 7:39am

Simmo - Matt- Slipknot

Thanks to all for the info

Alastair

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by Slipknot on Oct 3^rd, 2007, 7:15pm

You're Welcome ;)

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by Slipknot on Oct 8^th, 2007, 8:03am

Ok, i tried to locate this R35 thing, but no luck!
Maybe some body can give me a Foto report or a drawing of where exactly i can locate R35?
(there is like a forest, so many wires and stuff)

Thank you.

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by peteHull on Oct 8^th, 2007, 10:45am

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/images/aux_relays.gif

This will show where the r35 relay is situated....

hth
Pete

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by Slipknot on Oct 8^th, 2007, 3:23pm

Yes Pete i understood, but haven't seen anything, that looks like a place for a Plug of Relay.

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by peteHull on Oct 8^th, 2007, 5:10pm

If I recall I think there is a relay strapped in the vacinity of under the steering column area.... Cor I wish I'd taken photos of the wireing as I stripped it all out.... :-X

Pete

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by Slipknot on Oct 8^th, 2007, 5:47pm

on 10/08/07 at 17:10:52, peteHull wrote:

If I recall I think there is a relay strapped in the vacinity of under the steering column area.... Cor I wish I'd taken photos of the wireing as I stripped it all out.... :-X

Pete

Got a prob.... i can't translate your word (Vacinity), a lil'bit more exact info or you can say it in other words.

Greetz Dmitri

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by Matt on Oct 8^th, 2007, 6:07pm

Quote:

Got a prob.... i can't translate your word (Vacinity), a lil'bit more exact info or you can say it in other words.

it means general area, but not an exact position

Matt :)

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by Slipknot on Oct 12^th, 2007, 4:04am

Thats the problem....there is so many wires that i dont know where to look. :-/

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by Slipknot on Oct 18^th, 2007, 9:25pm

Is there anybody else, who can help me with my problem and tell me the exact location?

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by harry.m1byt on Oct 18^th, 2007, 10:15pm

My guess would be that 'under the instrument panel' means tucked up above the trim panel above your feet/shins as you drive. There is a tray there containing the cruise control plus other bits and this would be a sensible place for it.

Another way to be certain you have found the correct socket, would be to check the ciruit diagram for the wire colour codes leading into R35's socket. I think I correct in suggesting that any white Ford relay will do.

I can't think of any good reason for any of the fog light wiring to to be under the steering wheel or in the column.

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by Slipknot on Oct 24^th, 2007, 10:06am

i found 1 connector where should be a relay, but i don't know if this the one. It's green and it has 5 pins, 2 of them are + positive.....but now relay. maybe this is the 1??? What relay should be there. I know white 1, but what numbers it should have???

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by Slipknot on Jan 20^th, 2008, 1:33pm

Heh, i tested the green socket and it's for front glass wiper speed control.
Still no luck with the R35....HELP Me PLEASE! :-[

Maybe someone is braking a Scorpio or knows someone who does...so he can help me to locate this bloody Relay!? ???

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by Simmo on Jan 20^th, 2008, 4:25pm

Have you removed the shroud round the steering column as mentioned earlier?.

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by Slipknot on Jan 20^th, 2008, 5:44pm

you mean the surrounding metal parts (covers) ? i think not.

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by Tompion on Jan 24^th, 2008, 1:27am

Hi
It says (NL, S) for relay 35 so I assume unless the car was for those countries you don't need it.
I don't think you've mentioned if you've checked for R9 in the central fuse box (although I don't know if that is for the front or rear fog lights).

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by Slipknot on Mar 26^th, 2008, 10:37pm

on 01/24/08 at 01:27:03, Tompion wrote:

R9 relay i have installed.

Here's another thing!
On other Scorpio forum 1 guy had no Foglight like i do, but these lights installed an electrician. He told that he just installed the light, swicth and have removed 1 short circuit. tha da! and that were all he made.
Maybe i just need to remove this short circuit too?
Any advice or thoughts on this 1?

Title: Re: Front fog lights.
Post by Slipknot on May 26^th, 2008, 7:36pm

OK thank you for the help!
I got them working at last! I figured out that all working and voltage come to them, but on R9 (Front Fog Lights) i had no ground ''-''. So i just took ground from the R14 (Day Time Runing Lights) and tha da. The R9 now works! I can switch on and off them at any time!

About R35 Thingy... i think I don't have it in my wiring. I was reading Diagrams for Switzerland(Zurich) That is where my Car were sold from Main Ford Dealer!

Maybe this will help someone!

Now i Passed MOT.
Had probs with ABS stays on all the time and Fog Lights. ABS Rear sensor were unplugged and my ABS is now failing at second test. it's enough to pass the MOT :P

Thank you for all the info about ABS(was readind on the forum) and Fog Lights ;D