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Title: HELP!non start cossie Post by andyxr4x4 on Oct 19th, 2007, 5:48pm hi all first time on here and i have a problem? i have just got a 1995 24v cossie estate and it had a problem starting right i got this mon day noght and drove it home (about 25 miles) and no problems got up for work at 4am tuesday and it started fine finished work at 1800 and drove home fine went to go to work wed morning at 0345 and it wouldt fire (turning over ) ttried wiggling gear lever,checked fuses , leads etc etc the called aa he came out and checked camshaft sensor and coil pack which where both fine he said could be ecu? then went i then disconnected the battery just to try and remove ecu but couldt see(torch died) then i reconnected battery and chanced my arm but it started!!! run rough for about a minute then was fine!!! i went to work (4 hours late!) and restarted it and was fine! i finished work at 1900 and was fine ! i went to work thur morning at 0400 and was fine! i cam e home again at 0645 and was fine i just went out to car 1700 friday and it wont start!!!!1i disconnected battery and it started again!!!! can you help me please i have no idea but guess its an alarm immob problem (ps previous owner said there was no problem and i have dealt with him before so i know hes upfront and genuine/hes even a member on here!!!) any help gratefully recieved cheers andy |
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Title: Re: HELP!non start cossie Post by Highlander on Oct 19th, 2007, 6:08pm Hello and welcome ;D Intermittent problems can be a nightmare to solve. :-/ an OBD scan may be your best route otherwise we are just guessing. a PATS problem wouldnt allow you to crank the engine, more likely a fuel/ wiring problem i'd say |
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Title: Re: HELP!non start cossie Post by andyxr4x4 on Oct 19th, 2007, 8:00pm hi sounds silly but whats a obd scan and how do i do it? could it be a remote control problem? previous owner said he only brought the remote recently and said he had no problems with using the key? cheers andy |
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Title: Re: HELP!non start cossie Post by Highlander on Oct 20th, 2007, 2:01pm Definitely not a remote/immobiliser problem if the engine is cranking. You might have a member local to you who could do a diagnostic scan, otherwise you would need to try a garage, there may be a fault code stored from when the car failed to start |
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Title: Re: HELP!non start cossie Post by andyxr4x4 on Oct 20th, 2007, 3:15pm hi there is there anybody local who could do a scan? would you have any idea why the coil pack would not be sending a spark to plugs? and why would taking the battery off help? cheers andy |
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Title: Re: HELP!non start cossie Post by Highlander on Oct 20th, 2007, 3:35pm I wouldnt think disconnecting the battery would help in this case but give it a try if you want. Is that the problem? the coil pack isnt sending a spark to the plugs? You seem to have done some investigating, what have you found? |
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Title: Re: HELP!non start cossie Post by andyxr4x4 on Oct 20th, 2007, 4:10pm right as i said above used it mon night tue morning and tue evening everything fine and everything working wed morning would turn over but not fire? called aa who checked the cranckshaft sensor and coil pack both ok but no spark at plugs??? aa bloke said could be ecu problem so i found this site and found it could be wet ecu (no battery cover fitted to my car!) i disconnected battery to tackle the ecu but being still 6am i gave up till it got light but thought i would reconnect battery incase ecu only had short memory so tried to start it after battery being disconnected for 10 mins and hey presto!!!it was all fine again smooth as silk!? i went to work all fine finished work all fine went to work thursday all fine came home all fine but went to it yesterday afternoon and a non start again?just turning over!? had to disconnect battery and reconnected and hey presto all fine again?????it seems to have this non start problem eg no spark at plugs but i disconnect battery and reconnect and no problems againfo about a day? any help very much appreciated andy |
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Title: Re: HELP!non start cossie Post by Highlander on Oct 20th, 2007, 4:21pm Must be electrical or fuel as i said before but as to diagnosing it then you will need a diagnostic scan done by a garage otherwise it could be a hundred different things to try/replace/or check. |
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Title: Re: HELP!non start cossie Post by andyxr4x4 on Oct 20th, 2007, 4:38pm is there anyone local who can code read it for me or can i get a reader myself? cheers andy |
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Title: Re: HELP!non start cossie Post by Highlander on Oct 20th, 2007, 4:45pm there are various code readers available. The one regulary used on this site is available from www.obd-2.com in the USA which is very good. I see you are in Essex from your profile but if you let us know where in Essex someone may be able to help |
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Title: Re: HELP!non start cossie Post by andyxr4x4 on Oct 20th, 2007, 4:50pm im in stanford le hope?! cheers andy |
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Title: Re: HELP!non start cossie Post by andyxr4x4 on Oct 20th, 2007, 4:52pm would this work at all? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CODE-Reader-Scanner-EOBD2-OBD-2-II-OBDII-diagnostic-LED_W0QQitemZ300162455328QQihZ020QQcategoryZ30921QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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Title: Re: HELP!non start cossie Post by Highlander on Oct 20th, 2007, 5:04pm "Suitable For: Audi, Seat, Skoda, Volkswagen" No, you need a FORD one |
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Title: Re: HELP!non start cossie Post by andyxr4x4 on Oct 20th, 2007, 5:11pm whoops what about this one "ford 9http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/U480-CAN-OBD-2-EOBD-CODE-SCANNER-FORD-OPEL-FIAT-ALFA_W0QQitemZ230167326558QQihZ013QQcategoryZ30921QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem6 on?" |
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Title: Re: HELP!non start cossie Post by andyxr4x4 on Oct 20th, 2007, 8:01pm right just been out to car because its not been used for more then 24hours and it started? now is this because i used the key to lock and unlock the car the last 3 times ??? the previous owner emailed me today to say the second hand remote i got with the car he only brought a few days ago !! could this be the problem??? previous owner said he never had a problem with the car using the key every day? or is it just where the car could have dried out since the rain we had tuesday night? cheers andy |
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Title: Re: HELP!non start cossie Post by Highlander on Oct 20th, 2007, 8:34pm AGAIN, if the engine is cranking then it is NOT an immobiliser problem or anything to do with the remote |
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Title: Re: HELP!non start cossie Post by Scorpio_Mike on Oct 21st, 2007, 12:42am You stated that you have no battery cover on the car - have your starting problems occurred just after rain ? Maybe you need to check the fusebox near the battery for any signs of damp. |
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Title: Re: HELP!non start cossie Post by andyxr4x4 on Oct 21st, 2007, 7:44am yes they did i have nothing above the battery not even a retraining strap or bracket? and it wouldt start after all the rain we had tuesday night but did after i disconnected the battery for 10 mins! cheers andy |
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Title: Re: HELP!non start cossie Post by howiedintheplace on Oct 21st, 2007, 7:11pm When you disconnect the battery it resets everything. I would guess either there is some water where it should not be or bad wiring/connections somewhere. |
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Title: Re: HELP!non start cossie Post by andyxr4x4 on Oct 22nd, 2007, 8:42am oh ok i will try and get a battery cover for it and try and seal the gromitt under battery i went out in it yesterday and it seems fine still using the key though! boy its a nice car to drive!!! cheers andy |
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Title: Re: HELP!non start cossie Post by Roger@NOrWAY on Nov 3rd, 2007, 11:35pm on 10/20/07 at 20:34:03, Highlander wrote:
It seems like this might be wrong! My 24v (buildt 08.1995) cranks, but will not fire due to an immobiliser problem (code "1.6" on the PATS LED) :( See http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Problems;action=display;num=1192733101 |
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