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(Message started by: oldfartscorpio on Dec 1^st, 2007, 11:44am)

Title: Electric windows and electrics not working
Post by oldfartscorpio on Dec 1^st, 2007, 11:44am

For some time now the off side electric widows and the drivers door window/ mirror / seat controller have been 'dead'. 2 days agoe, while driving home thru a particularly nasty storm both the drivers side and passenger windows decided to open all the way. Now they had not worked for some months so this was quite a surprise. Even worse, they will not go back up because the drivers / off side buttons are 'dead'. The windows in this position then managed to flatten the battery, even with the ignition off.... so I now no longer have a working scorpio. Has anyone had this problem????

Title: Re: Electric windows and electrics not working
Post by Simmo on Dec 1^st, 2007, 12:34pm

Do you have a battery cover fitted?, is the area around the two fuseboxes clear of leaves debris etc and are the drain holes in the bulkhead clear to allow water to drain away?. As the windows suddenly 'worked' in the pouring rain it seems likely that the problem is related to water ingress and the fuse boxes are the first place to check. The fuses for all the items you mention are in the drivers side fuse box so that would seem to be a good starting point. Fuses 1 and 21 are listed as covering the exterior mirrors,fuse 6 the seats and fuses 25 and 26 the power windows. Have you checked the connector between the door and the pillar to see if there are any signs of wear or corrosion in the terminals?. Have you had the large connector to the main fusebox off at all?. This unit MUST be replaced correctly or it will appear to be located but will actually be one row of pins out and cause various problems. When replacing it the essential thing is to make sure that the two pins are located fully into their corresponding 'lugs' BEFORE attempting to push the connector home. :) THIS (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/battery.htm) may be of help as might THIS (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/drainholes.htm)

Title: Re: Electric windows and electrics not working
Post by Highlander on Dec 1^st, 2007, 6:36pm

As a temporary solution, try and close the wndows via the global closing if you have it..

put the key in the door lock, turn it to lock the doors and hold it in that position for a few seconds to see if it works.

Title: Re: Electric windows and electrics not working
Post by scorpio_man on Dec 1^st, 2007, 6:40pm

hi there

to close the windows, take the door cards off and connect 12v direct to the motor.

hth

Title: Re: Electric windows and electrics not working
Post by oldfartscorpio on Dec 2^nd, 2007, 9:52am

Lot's of good ideas to try. Looks like scorpio_man may be the only way.... get the windows up and at least I can use the car un til I fathom out the real problem. Thnaks to all, and if anyone thinks of any thing else that might be good to try let me know. Much appreciated. I'll keep you all posted on anything I find.

:)

Title: Re: Electric windows and electrics not working
Post by tintin on Dec 2^nd, 2007, 11:32am

my windows stopped working after rain, and started doing funny things. i also had hazards sometimes coming on ;-) battery was draining overnight.

the problem was water coming into the passenger side footwell, under the glove box. it was soaking the CCM (and the ecu), plugged the hole (under the battery) and replaced the CCM and all was well again.

check under the glove box to see if there is damp !

hth,

Title: Re: Electric windows and electrics not working
Post by oldfartscorpio on Dec 11^th, 2007, 10:11am

:o Keeping all informed as promised. The fault is in the Control unit found inside the door. PN F5RF-13C791-AD.

Now all I need is a replacement.

Thanks all