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(Message started by: lucydog on Jan 24th, 2008, 6:41pm)
Title: 2 new batteries????
Post by lucydog on Jan 24th, 2008, 6:41pm
hi all, i had a new battery fitted 2 months ago on my 2 litre ultima as the old one died on me, and after a week the new battery died too so i returned to the garage that fitted the new battery and they replaced it under guarentee, but this week the 2nd new battery has also died on me???.  i only do 4 miles a day in the car, could the problem be because im using lights heater etc... i will take battery back to the garage tomorrow to be checked/replaced for the third time....?. thanks.
Title: Re:  2 new batteries????
Post by scorpio_man on Jan 24th, 2008, 6:55pm
hi there

4 miles isn't a lot, but the car should cope with it. check the voltage ouput when the engine is running with lights, etc on, then off. use the dash reset (hold in the trip button for 10secs, then scroll to BATT) if you don't have a meter.

hth
Title: Re:  2 new batteries????
Post by Highlander on Jan 24th, 2008, 7:31pm
Might be worth getting the alternator checked too, does the battery light come on when you put the ignition on?
Title: Re:  2 new batteries????
Post by carmow on Jan 24th, 2008, 8:56pm
have you noticed the battery light when starting? if the battery light doesn't come on when starting it points to the alternator, failing that, does the engine turn slower when starting as time goes by, or is it a sudden power loss / battery failure?
Title: Re:  2 new batteries????
Post by v4-max aka Cheekyboy1 on Jan 26th, 2008, 1:41am
had my car nearly 2 years, i do on average 12MLS PER MONTH. car allways fires up with no problems. so would suggest you have a charging problem or your supplier has a dodgy batch of batteries.
Title: Re:  2 new batteries????
Post by jonnycab on Jan 26th, 2008, 5:12am
If you only do 4 miles a day & the battery is going dead in a week, then the alternator must be almost dead  :(

Using lights, heater etc without the alternator returning a charge will kill even the most powerful of batteries within hours & I'm surprised the garage that supplied the battery didn't test the alternator output.....it's the most obvious thing to look at  :)
Title: Re:  2 new batteries????
Post by Pegasus on Jan 26th, 2008, 7:30pm
If you can - take it to Halfords. Say you think the battery's dead. They'll check both battery & alternator for you.
Title: Re:  2 new batteries????
Post by TRACEYS_LIMO on Jan 26th, 2008, 10:12pm
;D yes and they wont charge
Title: Re:  2 new batteries????
Post by tintin on Jan 27th, 2008, 10:24am
...or necessarily give you a correct diagnosis.... ;)
Title: Re:  2 new batteries????
Post by lucydog on Jan 27th, 2008, 12:15pm
hi all, i have just had a chap look at the battery on the car and he says its too small for a 2litre ultima?. the battery casing is about 3 inch smaller than the battery tray?? and i charged battery fully yesterday and did 3 mile in it.. but today it is just clicking when i try to start the car??
Title: Re:  2 new batteries????
Post by Simmo on Jan 27th, 2008, 4:05pm
These cars do need a large amount of power to start them. Have a read of THIS page] (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/battery.htm) and check out the specification.Smaller/cheaper units may turn the car over BUT not have enough power to actually start the car.
Title: Re:  2 new batteries????
Post by gozz on Jan 27th, 2008, 8:36pm
  You can check the battery standing voltage by turning on the ignition and holding the trip button in until all the 8s appear,then press intermittently till Batt appears with the reading,then start the engine and do the same again to see the running voltage reading.This is a basic quick check without a meter.
Title: Re:  2 new batteries????
Post by chrali on Jan 31st, 2008, 12:36pm

on 01/27/08 at 16:05:16, Simmo wrote:
These cars do need a large amount of power to start them. Have a read of THIS page] (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/battery.htm) and check out the specification.Smaller/cheaper units may turn the car over BUT not have enough power to actually start the car.


Well that explains a lot , I had dancing needles and my battery didnt seem to so much as click the starter until it had been left a while.

The link shows a 71ah battery with a 650 cold crank capacity, my 2.9 has a 40ah battery with a 320 cold crank capacity!
Title: Re:  2 new batteries????
Post by lucydog on Feb 10th, 2008, 7:12pm
hi, the battery sold to me which i am using  is 44 amps, is this way too small too power a ultima?. ive read that you need a 71 amp battery at 650 cc .? thanks.
Title: Re:  2 new batteries????
Post by scorpio_man on Feb 10th, 2008, 7:39pm
hi there

yes, i would think so. the scorpio shuts down do modules when the voltage drops do far, hence flicking dials and non starting, etc.

hth
Title: Re:  2 new batteries????
Post by Highlander on Feb 11th, 2008, 8:35pm
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Problems;action=display;num=1201436538;start=15#22
Title: Re:  2 new batteries????
Post by ChrisF on Feb 14th, 2008, 10:37pm
Just as an aside, a 75ah batt shouldn't cost more than £55. Mine was from Patco about a month ago.


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