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Title: ABS light not working Post by hullad on Mar 17th, 2008, 2:44pm well my new but old scorpio 2.0 auto ultima failed it mot on the abs light not working on the dash, we took the the dash apart to find that the led light was missing!!!!!!! is this a common fault or has someone moved it out there was a little bit of the build still in situ thanks |
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Title: Re: ABS light not working Post by scorpio_man on Mar 17th, 2008, 2:54pm hi there if the led is missing, chances are that it was removed because of a fault in the abs system. >:( http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/brakerepairs.htm hth |
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Title: Re: ABS light not working Post by hullad on Mar 17th, 2008, 2:57pm oh dear that can be expensive then ps the link had nothing on |
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Title: Re: ABS light not working Post by scorpio_man on Mar 17th, 2008, 3:03pm on 03/17/08 at 14:57:08, hullad wrote:
not all the time. could be the connections need a clean. could be the controller. all the topic are down the side in the above link. hth |
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Title: Re: ABS light not working Post by Chieftain on Mar 18th, 2008, 8:24am on 03/17/08 at 14:57:08, hullad wrote:
Just tried the link all is there, look at the menu on the right hand side ;D fault may be something simple. When I bought my Cossie the ABS/TC lights came on over 15mph, fault code was ABS pump, changed with used one and no problems now. Garage price £1000+ including pump, my price £50 all in. |
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Title: Re: ABS light not working Post by hullad on Mar 18th, 2008, 10:24pm so were dose it say the fault code then? is it on the dash or do you have to put it on a computer? |
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Title: Re: ABS light not working Post by TiberiuS on Mar 18th, 2008, 11:32pm Ahh yes, the good old 'remove the lamp' MOT fix. I've been there, mucho fun to find an empty bulb holder when you've just spent an hour ripping the dash to bits... Most likely the ABS ECU if it's the earlier Teves type, it's normally that bit that's at fault. The pump unit is pretty reliable, it's the ECU underneath that fails. But try the cheaper stuff first before you go for a new ECU. And no, you don't want to know the cost of a new ECU/pump unit :-/ Normally when the light comes on at 15mph it's a fault in the unit, if the light is on all the time then it's likely a dead wheel sensor or something. AFAIK (it's a while since I did it), you can't read the ABS codes through the OBD port, you need a reader that's compatible with the ABS, some garages will read ABS codes. Either drop in another one or get yours fixed for (around £100, probably cheaper to get another 2nd hand and take a chance). Regards, Bruce. |
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Title: Re: ABS light not working Post by Tompion on Mar 19th, 2008, 12:38am on 03/18/08 at 23:32:51, TiberiuS wrote:
You can read the ABS codes through the OBD port, with the right lead. Admittedly it’s unlikely the ABS works as the light has been doctored, but have you tested it? Find somewhere you can safely brake hard and see if the wheels lock or if the ABS works you’ll get a pulsing through the brake pedal. Dave |
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Title: Re: ABS light not working Post by hullad on Mar 19th, 2008, 12:38pm well i have got a second hand set of dials so hopefully this will sort the problem out!!!!!!! all i need it to do is the light to go off after 3 seconds to pass the mot |
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Title: Re: ABS light not working Post by Tompion on Mar 19th, 2008, 1:36pm I suppose my previous post was open to interpretation, what I meant was the light has probably been doctored because the ABS doesn't work. If the ABS isn't working, I doubt (but don't know) that fixing the light will make any difference. That is to say, if the ABS doesn’t work now I don’t think it will work when you fix the light. |
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Title: Re: ABS light not working Post by TiberiuS on Mar 20th, 2008, 10:04am on 03/19/08 at 00:38:01, Tompion wrote:
Hi Dave. That's strange, I can't pull ABS codes with my Elmscan, tried a couple of cars with Teves systems now??? Do you just pull them along with regular fault codes or is there something else to it? Regards, Bruce. |
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Title: Re: ABS light not working Post by scorpio_man on Mar 20th, 2008, 10:44am hi there the abs is on iso protocol. using VE from alex pepper, you go into enhanced and get/clear codes from there. hth |
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Title: Re: ABS light not working Post by hullad on Mar 21st, 2008, 2:38pm well got the light working it comes on and goes off like it should do. but it comes back on when driving above 15 mph i hope it will pass the mot!!!! any way the rear break pads do you know if they have sensors on for wear? |
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Title: Re: ABS light not working Post by Snoopy on Mar 21st, 2008, 6:20pm NONE of the brake pads have wear sensors on the Scorpio.... See these pages for more ideas as to the cause and remedies (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/abssystem.htm) |
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Title: Re: ABS light not working Post by TiberiuS on Mar 22nd, 2008, 1:59am on 03/20/08 at 10:44:58, scorpio_man wrote:
Cheers Andrew. With the Elmscan it gives you a list of ECUs detected and asks you to choose which to connect to, like maybe engine and transmission ECUs. I remember with the 24v I looked at a few months back (had the laptop with me so tried the OBD), it gave a DTC for immobilser input or something and all the live sensor data was there but nothing I could see about ABS. Regards, Bruce. |
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Title: Re: ABS light not working Post by joe-satch on Mar 22nd, 2008, 10:19am hullad, how did you get the abs light to work on the instrument cluster???..as my daughters light dont come on in her ultima.im going to have a look to see if theres a relay that may have been removed...both fuses are ok and intact.thank you regards den. :) |
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Title: Re: ABS light not working Post by hullad on Mar 22nd, 2008, 3:41pm hi i bought a new cluster well 2nd hand one as the light was missing!!!!! i have found out the reason why it was missing because when you hit 15 mph the light comes on and stays on hth |
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Title: Re: ABS light not working Post by joe-satch on Mar 22nd, 2008, 6:14pm hi hullad...yes i see....could be a wheel sensor playing up causing the light to come on at speeds of 15mph and above....the light in my daughters ultima dont come on when the ignition is switched on....im going to look at some fuses tomorrow..and if that fails im going to have to take out the instrument cluster..thing is it dont look as though anything has ever been touched with the wood effect suround or the clocks...will find out soon enough....good luck in finding your problem...regards den. :). |
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Title: Re: ABS light not working Post by MrWalker on Apr 7th, 2008, 4:13am Hi. Got the same prob. with my 2.3 Ghia (98). (is there some bulbs inside the cluster) have changed all bulbs I can find (10 bulbs). Got no ABS-Light. Pleas help. |
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Title: Re: ABS light not working Post by hullad on Apr 7th, 2008, 9:48am hi the abs on inside the cluster itself you have to take it all apart but beware the abs light is not changable it is a lcd light and is part of the unit itself so you will need to by a new cluster i got mine for 45 quid from a place in manchester |
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Title: Re: ABS light not working Post by Tompion on Apr 7th, 2008, 11:26am on 04/07/08 at 04:13:25, MrWalker wrote:
Have a read through this similar thread: http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Advice;action=display;num=1206034572 The Author found someone had put tape over the LED in the cluster. |
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Title: Re: ABS light not working Post by MrWalker on Apr 7th, 2008, 4:35pm Hi. Read all posts on the link from Tompion and I´m quite sure that the LED is taped over so the light aint getting throe. I have no time this week to take the cluster out. Or place ( It´s snowing a lot in the North part of Sweden. Where I´m living). Find the Scorpio´s very nice and comfort cars. Thank you all for advice and help. Mr Walker. (Leif). |
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