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(Message started by: pappa on Apr 13^th, 2008, 10:25am)

Title: HELP - ABS Module break pipe order lost!
Post by pappa on Apr 13^th, 2008, 10:25am

Hi guys/gals!

i've been sorting out a persistanta ABS problem which have
have lead me to convert my whole brake pipe system and
ABS module. That's a long, long story let's not get into it
anymore.

The problem is that now I have a new 97+ ABS module
in place, but I do not have a glue which brake pipe should
go into which junction in the ABS module. There are five
pipes, two for the front wheels, one for the rear system and then there's two to go to the main cylinder. I'm in
Finland so it's LHD car. 2.3 DOHC without TCS.

To make things "easier" I have numbered the pipes
in the picture:
http://www.frogrider.net/images/abs-module.jpg

Oh, please help to get this one sorted, please, please
and please!

Title: Re: HELP - ABS Module break pipe order lost!
Post by Tompion on Apr 13^th, 2008, 11:01am

Too wet for me to crawl under the car at the moment, but I can see the pipe from the end of the master cylinder goes to no 5 so presumably the other master goes to no 1 (as these are different size fittings). I’ll try and look later if no one else answers.

Dave

Title: Re: HELP - ABS Module break pipe order lost!
Post by pappa on Apr 13^th, 2008, 11:40am

on 04/13/08 at 11:01:23, Tompion wrote:

Thanks Dave, only three to go then!

Title: Re: HELP - ABS Module break pipe order lost!
Post by Tompion on Apr 13^th, 2008, 9:14pm

on 04/13/08 at 11:40:46, pappa wrote:

Thanks Dave, only three to go then!

Only 5 wrong ways then :)
I was greeted by thunder & rain when I went out with a lead light to have a look.
I can't follow them from above so I'll try and look underneath later in the week when I'm working on the car.

Title: Re: HELP - ABS Module break pipe order lost!
Post by gozz on Apr 14^th, 2008, 7:55am

pappa.
I had a quick look on my 2.3 hearse and can see>1=NSF,2=rear of m/cyl,5=front of m/cyl.If Tompion can see the other two,all will be well.If not I will get it on the ramp when the current occupant is repaired.
Good luck
GOZZ

Title: Re: HELP - ABS Module break pipe order lost!
Post by pappa on Apr 14^th, 2008, 8:12am

Err...

Sorry to be so thick, but what do you mean with "NSF"
maybe I need more coffee this morning...
::)

Title: Re: HELP - ABS Module break pipe order lost!
Post by Kjetil S on Apr 14^th, 2008, 9:08am

Probably Nearside Front

According to google

Quote:

Nearside
the side of a vehicle nearest the kerb

So unless my brain is failing again, that should be the left side.

Title: Re: HELP - ABS Module break pipe order lost!
Post by pappa on Apr 14^th, 2008, 9:27am

Google does it!

Thanks Kjetil, that sounds about right to me!

Title: Re: HELP - ABS Module break pipe order lost!
Post by Kjetil S on Apr 14^th, 2008, 9:56am

You're welcome :)

Title: Re: HELP - ABS Module break pipe order lost!
Post by gozz on Apr 14^th, 2008, 11:03pm

pappa.
The nearside on a right hand drive car is the left,yours will be no different pipewise.but your nearside would be the right,sorry to be confusing.
GOZZ

Title: Re: HELP - ABS Module break pipe order lost!
Post by Tompion on Apr 17^th, 2008, 8:11pm

Well I couldn’t be sure of the pipes as they disappear behind a mounting plate for the electrics, they reappear under the servo & I can’t see them & it’s very difficult to feel what goes where.
Thinking about it my guess about the different size fittings was wrong, the pistons are opposed to the same eccentric on the pump so it makes sense that 2 & 5 are from the master & that the front ones would be the pair next to a master & the rear the single next to a master.
I’ve been meaning to change the brake fluid, so I thought I’d try leaving it somewhere hot overnight & see if I could detect the warmth in the pipes as I flushed each wheel.
Unfortunately I’ve come up with a difference to gozz for the left front (but it was difficult to detect the warmth in the pipe so I may be wrong).

2 master near bulkhead
1 front right
3 front left

5 end of master
4 rear

Best of luck, give yourself plenty of space to test it ;)

Title: Re: HELP - ABS Module break pipe order lost!
Post by pappa on Apr 18^th, 2008, 5:23am

Thank you very much for your help. I'll try to find time for this babe this weekend and
will let you know how it goes.

Title: Re: HELP - ABS Module break pipe order lost!
Post by gozz on Apr 18^th, 2008, 4:49pm

pappa.
I have just had my right hand drive 2.3 hearse on the ramp and after much wiggling and poking,this is Kosher gen > referring to your numbering 1=right hand front,2=rear of master cylinder,3=left hand front,4=rear,and 5= front of master cylinder.
Good luck GOZZ

Title: Re: HELP - ABS Module break pipe order lost!
Post by gozz on Apr 18^th, 2008, 4:54pm

pappa.
Have just seen Tompion's last post,he is quite right,I did get the front backterforrards ! Now you are armed with the correct gen twice.
GOZZ