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(Message started by: knightrider on Jun 18^th, 2008, 12:28pm)

Title: I'm confused.Com
Post by knightrider on Jun 18^th, 2008, 12:28pm

Hi everbody, I'm a new member of this forum and the proud new owner of a 2.3i 24v ghia (1997 on a P).
Now then! HELP! :-[
After starting engine misfires and splutters like mad after 2500 rpm sometimes can be over 3000 rpm. Only just started doing this last couple of days, before that it was ok but hesitant on deceleration. Man from kwik fit - whos dad has a 2.9 - checked the computer and said eletrics ok but might be sparkplug breaking down under load. Cannot change plugs as screwheads knurled over coils other plugs ok though.
Have read through problem page on this site and quite honestly I don't understand a blinking word of it!!
Can anyone explain - in laymans terms - what might be goining on??? ???

Title: Re: I'm confused.Com
Post by Tompion on Jun 18^th, 2008, 1:13pm

Hi & welcome
I assume it’s a 2.3 16v (not 24v)
It could be the plugs since they may not have been touched for ages if the coils couldn’t be removed, although this is fairly typical of the coils breaking down.
There doesn’t seem much point in trying to diagnose your problem until you look at the plugs, you need to get those coils off.
Dave

Title: Re: I'm confused.Com
Post by knightrider on Jun 18^th, 2008, 2:24pm

Thanks Dave.
Yes it is a 16v sorry.

I agree that it is probably the coils because I had another car a long time ago that had similar symptoms. It's just that I was told by your man at Kwik Fit that this would show up on the OBDC???
Anyway in the abscence of dynamite. How do you suggest I get those coils off, and will I need a second mortgage to get some replacements?

Title: Re: I'm confused.Com
Post by Tompion on Jun 18^th, 2008, 4:33pm

I don’t think anything would show up in OBD.
Ford coil packs are dear, there are cheaper ones about but I don’t know how good they are, there are usually some on eBay.

I take it you’ve tried a good quality torx bit, sometimes tightening first helps. I’d probably drill the heads off, what’s left should easily unscrew once you lift of the coil pack. I’d collect the swarf with a vacuum cleaner whilst drilling rather than risk it dropping down by the plugs.

Title: Re: I'm confused.Com
Post by Jonnycab on Jun 18^th, 2008, 5:21pm

Coil packs are about £65.00 each from Ford :)

Title: Re: I'm confused.Com
Post by knightrider on Jun 18^th, 2008, 6:08pm

Thanks Guys. I'll give it a try and let you know how I get on.

Title: Re: I'm confused.Com
Post by ChrisF on Jun 20^th, 2008, 9:08pm

Before you do all that a quick clean of the MAF wont do any harm, you might be surprised by the results. Clean it with carb cleaner. BUT dont touch the centre of it with anything other than carb cleaner. It'll take you ten mins. See the section on the MAF if you're in any doubt.

Title: Re: I'm confused.Com
Post by mr._floppy on Jun 22^nd, 2008, 1:00am

Try cutting slots in the Coilpack Torx boltheads with a hacksaw then use a big rubber handled ( plenty of grip :P ) flat bladed screwdriver.

Worked for me.