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(Message started by: brownie on Nov 8^th, 2008, 8:52pm)

Title: WONT START ok now
Post by brownie on Nov 8^th, 2008, 8:52pm

I was putting the radio back in when i dropped a live on to a black three fuses went. So i went in the car to get some came back in the car put them in. It took me three time to put the code in the radio went to start the car it wouldn't start. I think the black wire the live dropped on went to the black alarm box inside the car. The fuse boxes are all dry and new two weeks ago. 2.5TD MANUAL

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by Highlander on Nov 8^th, 2008, 10:47pm

Hello and welcome :)

When you say it wont start, does it crank and not fire? crank and nearly fire or does nothing happen at all?

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by brownie on Nov 8^th, 2008, 10:57pm

everthing i working but it will not turn over

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by Highlander on Nov 8^th, 2008, 11:14pm

Is the red PATS light on top of the dashboard flashing a code?

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by brownie on Nov 8^th, 2008, 11:31pm

hi no it is not

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by Highlander on Nov 8^th, 2008, 11:36pm

Have you cjecked all these??

Check Fuses F16 and F17 in main fuse box

Check F31, F34, F37 and F42 in auxiliary fuse box

Check Relay R17 and R19 in Auxiliary fuse box

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by brownie on Nov 8^th, 2008, 11:40pm

yes i have had all the fuses out and the relay and they all work

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by brownie on Nov 8^th, 2008, 11:45pm

it was fine till i put the fuses back in then the radio got power to it dose the alarm goes to the radio then rest of the car ?

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by mr._floppy on Nov 9^th, 2008, 12:56am

Flat battery maybe ?

Have you got the " flicking needles syndrome" when the key is in the ignition on position ?

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by Snoopy on Nov 9^th, 2008, 8:37am

Check the MAIN POWER FUSES in the AUX fuse BOX they are BIG ones rated at 80/60amps if one or more of those have blown then a lot of electrics are out of action.

From memory I think there are 4 of them.

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by brownie on Nov 9^th, 2008, 12:43pm

hello everyone the battery is only three weeks old i have had a jump starter on it the big fuses are all OK all the lights come on the radio heater fan horn windows

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by Highlander on Nov 9^th, 2008, 9:54pm

which black box did the wire touch?
have you got ignition lights?
does the heater plug light come on and go off?
How about if you VERY CAREFULLY short the starter terminals with the ignition on? can you start it that way?
could it be the starter is jammed? stick it in gear and try and rock it.

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by brownie on Nov 10^th, 2008, 8:17pm

hi again the live wire touch the black wire on back of the radio which gos to the black alarm box glove box side but the car still ran after it touch but when the radio got power from then nothing everything is working heater plugs the lot i have tied to bump it with a 3.7 jeep up down and around the block it did not start at all they is power to ever where.

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by brownie on Nov 10^th, 2008, 8:22pm

No flicking needles

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by brownie on Nov 10^th, 2008, 8:27pm

Or yes got ford to come out to plug there computer in and it wiped there computer clean he was not a very happy man after that it would not let him in at all

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by Highlander on Nov 10^th, 2008, 8:46pm

on 11/09/08 at 21:54:32, Highlander wrote:

How about if you VERY CAREFULLY short the starter terminals with the ignition on? can you start it that way?

Make sure its not just the ignition switch, starter or the solenoid before we get into the electrics

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by Matt on Nov 10^th, 2008, 10:14pm

you've not trapped a cable putting the radio back in or stripped the insulation off one of the cables, theres a lot of sharp bits of metal behind the dash? ????

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by brownie on Nov 10^th, 2008, 10:19pm

thanks chaps will look at them 2moz

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by brownie on Nov 11^th, 2008, 6:31pm

hi to you all i have tried all you have said and still no joy

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by joe-satch on Nov 11^th, 2008, 6:36pm

oh dear..... :o.

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by Highlander on Nov 11^th, 2008, 7:23pm

Did it crank the engine when you shorted the starter terminals though??

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by brownie on Nov 13^th, 2008, 6:28pm

Happy days
thanks to all of you the car is fine now it was the audio alarm wot had kick in.

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by Highlander on Nov 14^th, 2008, 10:30am

Dont understand, what audio alarm??

Title: Re: WONT START
Post by brownie on Nov 14^th, 2008, 9:19pm

Radio alarm
if the wires get cut or just pulled out it tell the immobilize to kick in i do not no if i did it by dropping i live on to the black wire or by putting the wrong code in three time or yes the live wire was from a part of a phone set up wot was left in if you wont to no wot wire it was i will send it to you in a messages
and thank you for all your help i have kept the rain out of my fuse boxes with bubble rap

Title: Re: WONT START ok now
Post by scorpio_man on Nov 15^th, 2008, 10:42am

pm sent.

regards