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(Message started by: Scorpio_Mike on Nov 17^th, 2008, 12:16pm)

Title: MOT / Bit 'o welding needed :-(
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Nov 17^th, 2008, 12:16pm

MOT due early December so I thought I'd get it done nice & early rather than the usual 'day before' which always seems to happen to me.

Everything OK - apart from a patch of rust in the chassis rail on the passenger side, just above the rear suspension arm :'(

I left it at the garage to fix, probably going to be about £250 - £300

MOT guy let me have a good look underneath while it was over the pit - rest of it in remarkably good order :)

Rusty patch looks to be a double layer of steel, guess some moisture got in between the 2 pieces and did the dirty work...

Will update later.

Title: Re: MOT / Bit 'o welding needed :-(
Post by Jonnycab on Nov 17^th, 2008, 12:24pm

Is the rust on the N/S chassis rail just behind the isolator bush ?......both mine & the wifes Scorps have it hear as well.

As long as it hasn't gone all the way through then I don't think it will fail the MOT.....well ours haven't...yet.

Lets us know how much it costs as I was going to have a crack at welding it myself, but it just looks like too much grief ::)

Title: Re: MOT / Bit 'o welding needed :-(
Post by martin_rowe on Nov 17^th, 2008, 1:26pm

if one skin has rotted away it should fail as it is 'substancially weakned'

Title: Re: MOT / Bit 'o welding needed :-(
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Nov 17^th, 2008, 1:33pm

Bit futher back JC, just before it starts to curve up into the rear arch.

Hole about the size of a £2 coin - think this seems to be a common problem area.

Title: Re: MOT / Bit 'o welding needed :-(
Post by Simmo on Nov 17^th, 2008, 4:50pm

Good luck with it Mike.I wondered if you and JC had seen THIS article (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cracks.htm) as it may be relevant . ;)

Title: Re: MOT / Bit 'o welding needed :-(
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Nov 17^th, 2008, 5:29pm

Seen that article before - and while I was in the pit with the MOT guy we both had a good look ariund under the rear suspension but no signs of cracking - hopefully he would already have noticed had there been any :o

The rusty part on my chassis rail is about 10 inches / 25cm towards the rear of the main bolt which holds the rear suspension crossmember to the floorpan.

Simmo - Didn't you have to have some welding done recently in the same area ?

Title: Re: MOT / Bit 'o welding needed :-(
Post by Simmo on Nov 17^th, 2008, 10:04pm

Yep. For last years MOT. ;)

Title: Re: MOT / Bit 'o welding needed :-(
Post by Highlander on Nov 17^th, 2008, 10:12pm

I've welded two estates with this, it looks as though the chassis actually flexes at this point and slowly weakens the metal if you see a really bad one the metal surrounding the corrosion looks lighter in colour, similar to bending a piece of metal back and forwards until it heats up and snaps

Title: Re: MOT / Bit 'o welding needed :-(
Post by mr._floppy on Nov 18^th, 2008, 1:14am

Caramba :o

£250-300 for a bit o' welding !! :o

I suppose the expense entails a fair bit of dismantling to get access to the mouldy bit ?

Title: Re: MOT / Bit 'o welding needed :-(
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Nov 18^th, 2008, 12:16pm

Just been to collect my Scorp - £250 in total for the welding and the MOT.

Title: Re: MOT / Bit 'o welding needed :-(
Post by matt1987 on Nov 18^th, 2008, 8:58pm

that not to bad we had a patrol in and got billed 1000 for the welding but it was alot of welding.

Title: Re: MOT / Bit 'o welding needed :-(
Post by Highlander on Nov 18^th, 2008, 9:01pm

on 11/18/08 at 01:14:33, mr._floppy wrote:

Caramba :o

£250-300 for a bit o' welding !! :o

I suppose the expense entails a fair bit of dismantling to get access to the mouldy bit ?

If its bad at all you need to remove the rear subframe assembley

Title: Re: MOT / Bit 'o welding needed :-(
Post by pinto on Nov 20^th, 2008, 9:40pm

oh how i hate having an industrial unit, 200A mig welder, two post ramp...... ;D

I've carried out welding jobs that would have cost literally thousands if done by a pro restorer, but its yielded some lovely vehicles at excellent prices ;)

Latest aquasition is a 96 Torneo Minibus with bad rear tinworm for..... £0.00 :D

Title: Re: MOT / Bit 'o welding needed :-(
Post by Simmo on Nov 20^th, 2008, 10:24pm

Jeff, you need to watch out that you are not 'visited' by a number of local Scorpio owners!!. ;D Mike.

Title: Re: MOT / Bit 'o welding needed :-(
Post by pinto on Nov 22^nd, 2008, 12:50am

on 11/20/08 at 22:24:07, Simmo wrote:

Jeff, you need to watch out that you are not 'visited' by a number of local Scorpio owners!!. ;D Mike.

Im sure i hear the distant thunder already mike.... }{