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(Message started by: phatt98 on Jan 22nd, 2009, 9:35am)

Title: CC 'key' symbol
Post by phatt98 on Jan 22nd, 2009, 9:35am
Hi all

What a godsend this website is... well done and thanks to the owner, admins and members!

I recently purchased an Ultima 2.3 98 facelifted model.
The CC panel has a small key symbol above the digital temperature on  the right (drivers) side display...
Looking through the posts and site I can't find anything on this so fare (apologies if I've missed something obvious, newbie and all)

I've reset the CC as per instructions and with no error codes.. however the symbol still remains...

Any ideas anyone?

Title: Re: CC 'key' symbol
Post by Tompion on Jan 22nd, 2009, 11:01am
Hi

Is this symbol still there when you turn the ignition off?
If it is then it is probably caused by a break down in the layers of the display.
It’s made up of layers of glass the LED & a Polaroid film, oil, WD40, switch cleaner etc can creep into the layers & create black shapes around the edges.

Dave

Title: Re: CC 'key' symbol
Post by phatt98 on Jan 22nd, 2009, 3:31pm

on 01/22/09 at 11:01:20, Tompion wrote:
Hi

Is this symbol still there when you turn the ignition off?
If it is then it is probably caused by a break down in the layers of the display.
It’s made up of layers of glass the LED & a Polaroid film, oil, WD40, switch cleaner etc can creep into the layers & create black shapes around the edges.

Dave



No I think you've got me wrong...  It comes on only when the ignition is on... It's clearly some kind of warning light on the LCD display itself and it's a real 'key' shaped symbol that's displayed just above the two temperature digits, not a smear, mark, stain....

I have it in the garage at the moment so if no-one has seen this before I'll take a photo after the weekend and post it online for you to see...

Title: Re: CC 'key' symbol
Post by scorpio_man on Jan 22nd, 2009, 5:14pm
hi there

yes, a photo would 'speak' a 1000 words! ;D

meantime, does your cc panel look like this one?
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/aircon.htm

hth

Title: Re: CC 'key' symbol
Post by phatt98 on Jan 22nd, 2009, 8:31pm
OK...

Please visit this link for a diagram that should make it clear...

http://www.macresolve.co.uk/key_symbol.html

Title: Re: CC 'key' symbol
Post by scorpio_man on Jan 22nd, 2009, 8:47pm
hi there

first time i've seen that! very strange. ???

of the bat.... replacemement screen at some point. :-/

but there is another possiblity. ;)

can you pm me you VIN number and i'll check something. :)

Title: Re: CC 'key' symbol
Post by phatt98 on Jan 22nd, 2009, 8:56pm
Done

Title: Re: CC 'key' symbol
Post by Tompion on Jan 22nd, 2009, 9:06pm
Just looked at the display of a dismantled CC & there is nothing above the digits apart from the tracks that feed the digits.

Title: Re: CC 'key' symbol
Post by scorpio_man on Jan 22nd, 2009, 10:12pm
hi there

i was thinking it might have been for the automatic environmental control. the one that switches on the re cir when it detects pollutions, etc.

couldn't find any reference to it.

it's well strange.

i go back to my first guess.... replacement screen. ;D

Title: Re: CC 'key' symbol
Post by bizzay1 on Jan 22nd, 2009, 10:17pm
could it mean that the temperature is locked ??

can you alter it & if so does the symbol stay there ??

Title: Re: CC 'key' symbol
Post by phatt98 on Jan 23rd, 2009, 6:38am

on 01/22/09 at 22:17:07, bizzay1 wrote:
could it mean that the temperature is locked ??

can you alter it & if so does the symbol stay there ??



Biz - The temperature is adjustable and yet the symbol remains....

Scorp - It's definitely a 'feature' .... I must have a special edition Ultima then... woooo hoooo   ;) :)

... or just an oddity :)

Title: Re: CC 'key' symbol
Post by Snoopy on Jan 23rd, 2009, 8:20am
Have you got the controls on recirculate or outside air..... Put all controls at "normal " setting . I seem to think its linked to an auto pollution control but never seen it before and its NOT in the handbook . can you post an actual picture of the display .
PM me your Vin Plate number as well please .  
I will try to find out .


Title: Re: CC 'key' symbol
Post by Snoopy on Jan 23rd, 2009, 4:12pm
I am unable to find out any details of the symbol..... I( think someone has substituted a different display unit in the control for the A/C as previously suggested.

It is listed as a standard R reg Vehicle built 1/98 from my info .

A picture of the actual control unit with the display would be an advantage NOT a made up one!



Title: Re: CC 'key' symbol
Post by phatt98 on Jan 23rd, 2009, 6:51pm
Ok... just got the car back from the garage... they suspect a blocked matrix... however, now I'm thinking it could well be linked to this warning symbol... Apologies, I thought the physical temperature changed when the control setting was adjusted... it doesn't...

So what now?!

I've just taken a photo and uploaded it to the same web address as before:

http://www.macresolve.co.uk/key_symbol.html

Hope this helps...

(btw, are any members or known Scorpio techies in or local to North London??)

Title: Re: CC 'key' symbol
Post by scorpio_man on Jan 23rd, 2009, 7:46pm

on 01/23/09 at 18:51:22, phatt98 wrote:
(btw, are any members or known Scorpio techies in or local to North London??)


hi there

get yourself along to the kent meeting on sunday!!!
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=admin12;action=display;num=1231799450


Title: Re: CC 'key' symbol
Post by Seans_Dad on Jan 25th, 2009, 7:56am
Hi Phatt98,

I noticed on the photo's that you linked here, that you have a RDS 6000CD radio/CD player fitted. Do you have use of the steering column controls? And do you have a CD changer in the boot too?
Sorry to go off topic, but I'm trying to find a decent replacement CD player for my new '96 Scorp.
Many thanks.

Dan.

Title: Re: CC 'key' symbol
Post by phatt98 on Jan 25th, 2009, 8:43am

on 01/25/09 at 07:56:56, Seans_Dad wrote:
Hi Phatt98,

I noticed on the photo's that you linked here, that you have a RDS 6000CD radio/CD player fitted. Do you have use of the steering column controls? And do you have a CD changer in the boot too?
Sorry to go off topic, but I'm trying to find a decent replacement CD player for my new '96 Scorp.
Many thanks.

Dan.


Yes, the steering column controls work perfectly.. but no CD changer in the boot...

Title: Re: CC 'key' symbol
Post by Seans_Dad on Jan 25th, 2009, 6:53pm

on 01/25/09 at 08:43:32, phatt98 wrote:
Yes, the steering column controls work perfectly.. but no CD changer in the boot...


Cheers mate, you've been a big help....... ;D

Dan.



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