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(Message started by: Jonnycab on Mar 3^rd, 2009, 1:15pm)

Title: Autobox problem
Post by Jonnycab on Mar 3^rd, 2009, 1:15pm

Just went to go out in the car, started it, went to put it in D & nothing ???

The autobox seems to be stuck in P & the gearstick feels as though it's not attached to anything. Would I be right in thinking that it may have come loose from the selector ? :-/

Never had this problem before, so hopefully someone can advise :)

Title: Re: Autobox problem
Post by scorpio_man on Mar 3^rd, 2009, 1:22pm

hi jc

you might have snapped the selector shaft. :(

you can see it from underneath.

hth

Title: Re: Autobox problem
Post by scorpio_man on Mar 3^rd, 2009, 1:25pm

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/images/autoselector.jpg

Title: Re: Autobox problem
Post by Jonnycab on Mar 3^rd, 2009, 1:48pm

Thanks for that Andy, I did call the AA & they've just been round. The guy looked underneath & says that the linkage rod isn't connected, looks like there should be some kind of clip holding it on.

He managed to manually move the selector to N so we could push the car the 50 yards from up the road (where it's normally parked) into the wifes parking space ::) outside the house.

I've not had a look at it yet & won't have the chance today, but will get under it tomorrow.

Don't suppose you know what the clip looks like that he is talking about & what part it is on the link you posted ? :)

Title: Re: Autobox problem
Post by Jonnycab on Mar 3^rd, 2009, 2:28pm

I wonder if this the part that is broken ?.....http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/manual/autotrans/GearSelector.pdf section 11 part no 1...looks to be part 18 on the link that scorpio_man posted.

Won't know for sure until I get under it tomorrow, but fingers crossed ;)

Title: Re: Autobox problem
Post by scorpio_man on Mar 3^rd, 2009, 2:39pm

hi there

no.18 is the clip. 36p at old prices. finnis no. 6177341

no. 22 is the rod. £15.39 at old prices. finnis no. 7352523

check that it's the right bit first, though.

hth

Title: Re: Autobox problem
Post by Jonnycab on Mar 3^rd, 2009, 2:46pm

Thanks for that Andy, you're a star :)

Title: Re: Autobox problem
Post by Simmo on Mar 3^rd, 2009, 3:10pm

Jon, It is a known fault and it could be the actual 'lever' itself. Sometimes they seize up and snap or distort thus affecting the gear selection. Good luck, Mike. ;)

Title: Re: Autobox problem
Post by Tompion on Mar 3^rd, 2009, 6:06pm

Hopefully just the clip, but have a look at the post by Highlander at the bottom of this thread:
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Problems;action=display;num=1201590734

Dave

Title: Re: Autobox problem
Post by Jonnycab on Mar 3^rd, 2009, 7:02pm

Thanks guys for all the pointers & advice, hopefully it won't take me to long to fix (or bodge) up ;)

........Now what did I do with those cable ties & gaffa tape ? ;D

Title: Re: Autobox problem
Post by Tompion on Mar 3^rd, 2009, 7:38pm

Don't forget the QuikSteel :)

Title: Re: Autobox problem
Post by gozz on Mar 3^rd, 2009, 10:18pm

JC.
Had the problem two or three times on the funereal vehicles,luckily not whilst actually engaged on the job ! It has always happened just like you say,either when attempting to start off,or manoeuvering in the yard.The clip just looses its springiness and falls on to the heat shield,I usually keep a couple in stock.
GOZZ.

Title: Re: Autobox problem
Post by Jonnycab on Mar 3^rd, 2009, 11:29pm

Thanks Gozz...if it is the clip in question, then are they a Ford part only, or are they just a common clip available from a local motor factors ? :)

Title: Re: Autobox problem
Post by Dave2302 on Mar 4^th, 2009, 12:00am

JC,

Seen it loadsa times, if u cant get one a thin washer and normal circlip to fit the shaft will get you going and is a lasting repair. Most factors keep assorted circlips which will fit the groove.
HTH

Regards Dave

Title: Re: Autobox problem
Post by Jonnycab on Mar 4^th, 2009, 12:16am

Cheers Dave2302 for the advice....something more to go on ;)

Title: Re: Autobox problem
Post by gozz on Mar 4^th, 2009, 8:57am

JC.
I use Ford clips,they even stock em ::) you slide one side of the clip up the slot on the rod and the other side of it has a hole that clicks over the end of it,but they eventually get weak and slide off.
GOZZ

Title: Re: Autobox problem
Post by Jonnycab on Mar 4^th, 2009, 11:29am

Panic over !!!.....turns out the rod had come off the selector at the top, so just needs a new circlip ::)....hopefully that will be the end of my woes for the time being ;)

Thanks again for all the help guys :)

Title: Re: Autobox problem
Post by Simmo on Mar 4^th, 2009, 11:31am

on 03/03/09 at 19:02:01, Jonnycab wrote:

Thanks guys for all the pointers & advice, hopefully it won't take me to long to fix (or bodge) up ;)

You bodge it JC :o...never let it be said... @. :D ;D

Title: Re: Autobox problem
Post by Jonnycab on Mar 5^th, 2009, 3:28am

One thing is bothering me now ???..... The AA guy saw what was wrong & manually (from underneath) slipped the selector out of P & into N so we could push it.

Now I've had a good look at it & fixed it, I'm wondering why the AA guy couldn't fix it :-/....all he had to do was slide the rod end back over the shaft & it would have been drivable, he could have even fitted a new clip (from his assortment of spares in the van) to stop it coming off again.....Once I jacked the car up & had a look, it literally took about 2 minutes to slip the rod back onto shaft & fit a new clip ::)

Why did I ring the AA in the first place ?....for starters, it was parked on the road & it was raining ::). I have a limited knowledge of autoboxes, so didn't really know what to look for if I had got underneath (with my legs sticking out into the road). I'd just had a shower & didn't feel like getting dirty again & had to pick my litt'lun up from school in a couple of hours.....& I thought I'd get my money's worth from the AA, as I hadn't called them out for nearly 2 years ;)

Have to admit though, the AA guy was here within 45 mins & diagnosed the problem as soon as he crawled under the car.....but it still beggars belief why he chose to move the selector to N rather than simply re-attach the rod ???

Title: Re: Autobox problem
Post by gozz on Mar 5^th, 2009, 8:40am

JC.
To have put the rod back on, the obvious thing,is probably against Health and Safety regulations as issued to AA operatives under anti litigation rules ??? ;D
GOZZ.

Title: Re: Autobox problem
Post by and11 on Mar 17^th, 2009, 2:01pm

on 03/05/09 at 03:28:58, Jonnycab wrote:

Think i'll join rac then! I,m having suspicions about my auto selector too, if u wiggle it a bit it ' locks ' into place in drive, but it feels loose in others also when at lights on 2 occasions it seemed feel in neutral for a second as i'v took foot of brake.