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(Message started by: pinto on Aug 23rd, 2009, 2:53pm)
Title: Grrrrr !
Post by pinto on Aug 23rd, 2009, 2:53pm
Just driving home when I noticed a loud hissing sound and spotted a lovely jet of water and steam blasting from the front grille of the ultima - looks like the rad has said so long :(

Is the cossie rad unique (and uniquely expensive so far - £415 !!!!! ) so an i saddled or can anyone suggest either a cheaper source ?  Will the DOHC rad work in its place ?

Im not a fan of second hand rads if i can avoid them :(
Title: Re: Grrrrr !
Post by Highlander on Aug 23rd, 2009, 3:43pm
Yep, any auto radiator will do, 16v, diesel, 12v etc
i have a 16v one in mine, just replaced the header tank with the 16v one (extra hose in the 24v) and its ran fine ever since.
Title: Re: Grrrrr !
Post by pinto on Aug 23rd, 2009, 7:27pm
Spotted this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-GRANADA-SCORPIO-DOHC-2000-2300-RADIATOR-1985-95_W0QQitemZ370218461362QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item5632bd68b2&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

says for manual cars, but as the scorp has a seperate oil cooler for the box, is there any difference between the rads ?
Title: Re: Grrrrr !
Post by Highlander on Aug 23rd, 2009, 7:30pm
yep, the gearbox cooler pipes run through the coolant  radiator at the nearside, you'll need an auto rad
Title: Re: Grrrrr !
Post by gozz on Aug 23rd, 2009, 7:59pm
pinto.
The Scorp has two coolers,one in the rad and an auxilliary one under the rad.If we drove the cars sedately the rad one would be sufficient,but to avoid the old problems of boiling ATF when towing or caning, the extra one is already there to save us the trouble of finding out the hard way !
                                                      GOZZ.
Title: Re: Grrrrr !
Post by pinto on Aug 23rd, 2009, 8:46pm
wondering if its possible to just uprate the auxillary cooler and junk the rad one - the chance of £35 radiators is too good to turn up ;)
Title: Re: Grrrrr !
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Aug 23rd, 2009, 9:00pm
Pinto,
I'm not far from you - got a spare 2.3 rad & header tank somewhere in the shed.

PM me if interested.
Title: Re: Grrrrr !
Post by Stixy on Aug 23rd, 2009, 9:05pm
Dont bother with the std oil cooler in the rad or the separate one

  fit one of these with the £35 rad

Look around and they are much cheaper than this

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUTO-TRANSMISSION-OIL-COOLER-FIT-ASTON-MARTIN-DB7-VANTA_W0QQitemZ350207749176QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item518a022c38&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Title: Re: Grrrrr !
Post by Stixy on Aug 23rd, 2009, 9:10pm
Like this

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q289/the_fomoco_kid/SN850239.jpg
Title: Re: Grrrrr !
Post by pinto on Aug 23rd, 2009, 9:29pm
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/16-ROW-OIL-COOLER-200SX-SUNNY-PULSAR-GTIR-SKYLINE-300ZX_W0QQitemZ400067368704QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item5d25df9700&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

This do neil  ?
Title: Re: Grrrrr !
Post by Stixy on Aug 23rd, 2009, 9:35pm
Yes that will do it just check the clearance between your air con rad & grille

Just a case of extending and re-routing your cooler pipes
Title: Re: Grrrrr !
Post by Stixy on Aug 23rd, 2009, 9:39pm
Or these

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HAYDEN-1405-TRANSMISSION-OIL-COOLER-HEAVY-DUTY_W0QQitemZ350242330073QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item518c11d5d9&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245


I have used these too and there quite good   ... and slim  ;)
Title: Re: Grrrrr !
Post by pinto on Aug 23rd, 2009, 9:43pm
Very good price too, even with international shipping :) £47.76 shipped - so looking about £100 all in with the rad !

Think theres plenty of room in the scorp between the rad and grille, or where the existing aux cooler sits
Title: Re: Grrrrr !
Post by Baz on Aug 23rd, 2009, 10:04pm
Stixy. can you not put the front back on the car after fitting one of those..... or do you have to leave it off like you have done (might make night driving a bit awkward without headlights as well I guess!!! ;D

Interesting stuff. The begining of the end for my Cosworth was the auto cooler radiator going bang on the motorway near Paris a few years ago. One of these at the time would have prevented a lot of heartache and woe!!

Baz
Title: Re: Grrrrr !
Post by Stixy on Aug 23rd, 2009, 10:13pm

on 08/23/09 at 22:04:39, Baz wrote:
Stixy. can you not put the front back on the car after fitting one of those..... or do you have to leave it off like you have done (might make night driving a bit awkward without headlights as well I guess!!! ;D


Exitement got the better of me and i needed to try it out  ;D


Title: Re: Grrrrr !
Post by big_timer on Aug 24th, 2009, 6:37pm
are you able to get the radiator re-cored?there is a radiator specialist near myself in belfast that have re-cored a few radiators for me in the past.
Title: Re: Grrrrr !
Post by gozz on Aug 24th, 2009, 10:08pm
pinto.
Beware of cheap radiators,they usually have a row or two of waterways short,and although they may offer sufficient cooling they are generally weak and of an inferior quality.
                   GOZZ.
Title: Re: Grrrrr !
Post by pinto on Aug 25th, 2009, 12:38pm
the brand they're selling is the same as the one I had quoted at 415 from a local factor :)


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