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(Message started by: emptypockets on Nov 20^th, 2009, 9:21pm)

Title: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by emptypockets on Nov 20^th, 2009, 9:21pm

Hi Folks.

I have just gone out to put the 2.3 into the drive for the night, turned the ignition on, full display, turned to start up and everything went dead. No power at all to anything. Checked the battery connections and they are tight, dry and clean. I had noticed the flicking instrument needles syndrom over the past couple of days but would a battery go absolutely dead instantly? Can't do much until daylight but any pointers before the dawn?

Many thanks

Title: Re: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by tonyboy on Nov 20^th, 2009, 9:43pm

Here's a link a about batteries ......... http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/battery.htm

Title: Re: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Nov 20^th, 2009, 9:58pm

Yes, batteries can suddenly go dead - had it happen to me in the past :(

Title: Re: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by emptypockets on Nov 20^th, 2009, 10:21pm

Many thanks gents.

That link is really excellent and all the symptoms are there. It is a horrible feeling when all systems suddenly die like that so a new battery only would be a big relief.

It has also prevented me from gaining the title of the most perfectly ruptured man in Belfast by describing how to remove the battery properly.

I will report back tomorrow on replacement.

Cheers

Title: Re: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by big_timer on Nov 21^st, 2009, 1:23am

emptypockets whereabouts in belfast are ye?its great to know that theres a few scorpio lunatics over here.

Title: Re: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by Technology2005 on Nov 21^st, 2009, 10:25am

on 11/20/09 at 21:58:31, Scorpio_Mike wrote:

Yes, batteries can suddenly go dead - had it happen to me in the past :(

[] My first Scorpio did exactly the same thing, no warning at all...one day fine, next day drove to a customers, and when I came out car was exactly as yours emptypockets.

New battery sorted straight away.

David

Title: Re: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by emptypockets on Nov 21^st, 2009, 12:00pm

Hi Big Timer.

I'm located at Dundonald, near the Ice Bowl. I was 'Granada Man' for twelve years and this is my first Scorpio.

Love the car but at present I just seem to be waiting for the next problem to develop. Todays fault is indeed the battery but as it is the next best thing to a monsoon here it will have to wait. KwikFit have one for £70.00 fitted so thats the very chap for me.

Cheers

Title: Re: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by Simmo on Nov 21^st, 2009, 1:06pm

John, Just be sure that it is the correct capacity as detailed in the link that saved you a hernia! ;). A smaller battery will not handle the power needed for these cars as many have found to their cost.

Title: Re: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by emptypockets on Nov 21^st, 2009, 3:47pm

Many thanks Simmo.

The good news is the monsoon here abated for a while and I jump started the dead one and drove to KwikFit.

You where spot on. i.e. the wrong battery was fitted in the first place. Nowhere near the capacity required. New unit installed, alternator reading spot on. All done and dusted for £70.00 all in with a three year warranty.

Many thanks again for everyones help. Now time for copious amounts of the black stuff!

John

Title: Re: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by big_timer on Nov 21^st, 2009, 8:44pm

just down the road emptypockets in the cregagh area.is your scorpio a nouveau red one? and did you used to drive a lovely silver granada with chrome wheel arches.i used to drive the son up football training at billy neill playing pitches and i think i spotted it a few times.well have to meet up sometime and talk (moan)over these cars.this site is definetly the best forum site of them all and the members on here are second to none not only in their knowledge but general fraternalship

Title: Re: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by emptypockets on Nov 21^st, 2009, 8:56pm

Hi Big Timer.

Oh yes, I was that man. 1991 2.9i Granada Scorpio with chrome arches, fitted to temorarily hide the dreaded rear wheel arch bubbles until the money was available to repair them. Five years they were on, God only knows what was holding them in place. Had to sell her as bodywork requirements would not have been financially viable to me. Could have sold fifty of them if the resonse to the adds for free was anything to go by.

Seriously impressed with my first Scorpio but seem to be going from one problem to another, but I will prevail. Contact me anytime at the Ice Bowl. Ask for John, the vending man!

Sorry, forgot to add that I have made one donation to this site and will shortly make another. I would have been lost re; the workings of the Scorpio compared with the Granada.

Cheers.

Title: Re: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by big_timer on Nov 21^st, 2009, 11:28pm

brilliant emptypockets,at last someone else who appreciates these super cars.will make a point of calling in. ;D.

Title: Re: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by Jonnycab on Nov 22^nd, 2009, 2:13am

Do either of you Irish boys know if the Rosetta Bar still exists ?....played there a couple of times (when I was in a band) back in 1990 & always remember what a great atmosphere & crowd it had 8)

Fond memories ;)

Title: Re: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by big_timer on Nov 22^nd, 2009, 8:09am

jonnycab.i cant believe it.the rosetta bar is my local.there has been some big bands have set foot on that hallowed stage,from thunder to nuclear assault.and a few excellent tribute bands.there has always been a rock band played there.but recently it has changed hands and the live entertainment has dwindled somewhat.it has even had a few raves take place.it has even give 2 years notice for closure to make way for appartments.an end of an era.
you could be hacking your way through the deepest jungles of brazil and end up meeting someone who has been in the "ROSIE" that was the type of bar it was.
tell me jonnycab im bit of an old rocker myself and have seen many bands upstairs at the rosie,and have drunk many pints out of the plastic pint glasses, what was the name of the band and ive probably seen you or heard of you

Title: Re: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by big_timer on Nov 22^nd, 2009, 8:11am

it wasnt the "SCORPIOns" was it ;D

Title: Re: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by emptypockets on Nov 22^nd, 2009, 10:53am

Re; the Rosetta,

Without giving my age away I had a few in the those very premises before George best started with Man Utd!!!

Bottoms Up.

Title: Re: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by Jonnycab on Nov 22^nd, 2009, 12:36pm

on 11/22/09 at 08:11:18, big_timer wrote:

it wasnt the "SCORPIOns" was it ;D

}{....I wish ;D

The band was called Treason & we played there twice, once as a headliner & once supporting Xentrix.

Sorry to hear the place is going to be flattened, it's a real shame :(

Title: Re: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by big_timer on Nov 22^nd, 2009, 1:05pm

then ive seen you.definetly if you supported xentrix.i got one of their banned "ghostbusters"record sleeves signed.my god jonnycab i could have even headbanged to your band.brilliant!

Title: Re: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by Jonnycab on Nov 23^rd, 2009, 9:57am

on 11/22/09 at 13:05:07, big_timer wrote:

my god jonnycab i could have even headbanged to your band.brilliant!

Now that's what I like to hear ;D

Don't suppose one or two of these old tracks might jog your memory ;)......

http://www.box.net/shared/sxvuof20w0

http://www.box.net/shared/y9ic3tl0ko

http://www.box.net/shared/bjgwnu4744

Title: Re: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by big_timer on Nov 23^rd, 2009, 11:05am

wasnt familiar but i was usually in a stste at the rosie where you couldnt tel if you were listening to metallica or rolf harris and didnt even care.great music though right up my street.

Title: Re: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by emptypockets on Nov 25^th, 2009, 5:42pm

Hi Folks.

Reporting back having just completed the full to empty test re; petrol consumption.

Works out at 20mpg. I can live with this as it was undertaken in mostly non motorway conditions mainly her indoors going to work each day. YES! she has claimed the Scorpio as her own already.
I am having a service done tomorrow and I expect this will increase the mpg especially as there is something making a tinny sound from the passenger side rear wheel, possibly a brake binding. Also turning the air con button off after start up should make a difference.

Many thanks again for all the advice.

Title: Re: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by Simmo on Nov 26^th, 2009, 8:18am

on 11/25/09 at 17:42:24, emptypockets wrote:

there is something making a tinny sound from the passenger side rear wheel, possibly a brake binding.
.

Make sure they check the wheel bearing!. That type of noise is a classic for a failing wheel bearing. ::)

Title: Re: All power has suddenly gone.
Post by emptypockets on Nov 28^th, 2009, 6:53pm

Just a note on my mpg after a short service.

The plugs that were replaced were on their last legs so consumption should be that much better plus a new air filter to go in tomorrow. And the good news is that the 'tinny' sound was simple an exhaust bracket which was partially adrift and vibrating.

Many thanks again.