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(Message started by: Tenfut on Jan 6th, 2010, 6:15pm)

Title: ABS/TC Help needed
Post by Tenfut on Jan 6th, 2010, 6:15pm
Hi guys

Left work at 5-30, went 100 yards then got stuck on some ice on a hill, switched off traction control but the car wouldnt move. Along came 2 helpful lorry drivers and helped me with a push for about another 100 yards to the top of the incline and away I went. Stopped at the main road and noticed the ABS/TC lights were on. Arrived home and switched off to open garage door, started engine again and lights still there, so failed the start up test. Have I done some damage or is there an easy fix, I somehow doubt it. I have checked fuses 46 & 47.

Thanks

Tony

Title: Re: ABS/TC Help needed
Post by Tenfut on Jan 6th, 2010, 6:25pm
Forgot to add 1996 24v Ultima

No access to OBD

Tony

Title: Re: ABS/TC Help needed
Post by PJDavis on Jan 6th, 2010, 9:52pm
I have had a similar problem, although I do not have traction control, and mine is a 2.3 Ultima.   When the Gal was pushing me out of the drive my near-side wheel was spinning, whilst off-side wheel stationery.   When I eventually got out of the drive (it's a long drive out in the country in the middle of knowhere) I noticed that the ABS light was on.   I drove the car for a couple of miles, and braked at one point to find that the ABS was definitely not working.   I also stopped the car, turned off ignition, and sat for two minutes.   When I fired the car up again I was disappointed to see the ABS light was still on however, I drove the car about 50 ft and the light went out!   Tested the ABS and it was working.   I remembered seeing on this forum something regarding spinning of wheels independently causing the ABS light to illuminate, I think this may have been the problem?

Title: Re: ABS/TC Help needed
Post by Highlander on Jan 7th, 2010, 4:18pm
Probably just ice /dirt on the rear sensors Tony, might be ok after a while in the garage.

Switching the traction control off will make it harder to get moving again but as with any heavy, front engined/rear wheel drive car, Scorpios are pretty hopeless in the ice.

Did you try pulling away in 2nd or with the Winter mode selected (same thing)?

Title: Re: ABS/TC Help needed
Post by Tenfut on Jan 7th, 2010, 7:51pm
Hi Stuart, Happy New Year to you and yours.

I would have to say this is the worst big Ford I have driven in snow/ice. Best was a Mark 1 3Ltr Granada Ghia, that thing would climb mountains, pity it was such a rust bucket.

Anyway back to last night I had the TC switched off and the snow button activated but it was hopeless. Interestingly enough my colleagues all managed the incline without problems. (Audi A6S - expected, Rover 75, Lexus IS200, Toyota people carrier)

After sitting pondering for a few hours I disconnected the battery for an hour, re-connected it and switched on the ignition and the ABS/TC lights still stayed on :'( :'(

This morning, fired up the engine and the lights were still on, set off for work and because my street has not seen any grit and is just packed ice, for the first few hundred yards I didnt do more than 10 MPH and the
lights wre still illuminated. Once I reached the main road I increased speed and as soon as I reached 20 MPH the lights went out ;D ;D

I dont know why, but who cares.

One happy bunny

Cheers

Tony

Title: Re: ABS/TC Help needed
Post by Jonnycab on Jan 8th, 2010, 3:07am

on 01/07/10 at 19:51:56, Tenfut wrote:
Hi Stuart, Happy New Year to you and yours.

I would have to say this is the worst big Ford I have driven in snow/ice. Best was a Mark 1 3Ltr Granada Ghia, that thing would climb mountains.


I'll have to try that one out  ;)....not many mountains in Essex though  ::)

Title: Re: ABS/TC Help needed
Post by Highlander on Jan 8th, 2010, 11:16am

on 01/07/10 at 19:51:56, Tenfut wrote:
I had the TC switched off and the snow button activated but it was hopeless.


It would be better with TC on

Title: Re: ABS/TC Help needed
Post by Tekno on Jan 8th, 2010, 11:26am
tip: in slippery place, apply hand brake 1-2 clicks -> power is shared little bit more between left and right side.

Also preventive things what i've done is to have always filled up fuel tank, decrease tyre pressure to about 26-29 psi (and dont drive ridicuously fast!), add some weight to luggage compartment ..

Title: Re: ABS/TC Help needed
Post by Highlander on Jan 8th, 2010, 2:09pm

on 01/08/10 at 11:26:37, Tekno wrote:
tip: in slippery place, apply hand brake 1-2 clicks -> power is shared little bit more between left and right side.

Also preventive things what i've done is to have always filled up fuel tank, decrease tyre pressure to about 26-29 psi (and dont drive ridicuously fast!), add some weight to luggage compartment ..


Just dont mention to the mother in law thats shes in the back seat to aid traction!!  }{



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