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(Message started by: bonnietiler on Jun 18th, 2010, 9:05am)
Title: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by bonnietiler on Jun 18th, 2010, 9:05am
After 3 years away Rover 75 CDTI Conn SE Tourer..my son (2 new children) has cabbaged my Rover, Now the reason for the Rover was that my missus ran into the back of an Audi and wrote off my beautiful Panther Black Mk2 Cossie Estate...
The problem is I've seen a very Low miler Cossie(not cheap mind) and those old inhuman pangs are coming back again....I mean what sane person would opt for sub 20mpg around town and sub 30 on the Motorway these days...So come on you lot talk me out of this insanity before I do something that my wallet will regret!!
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by Highlander on Jun 18th, 2010, 9:46am
Well if you're going to call it a Mk2 you shouldnt be ALLOWED to have one ;)

What sort of price is it?
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by bonnietiler on Jun 18th, 2010, 9:50am
Alright..alright..I've been away you know... "Facelift" then...cha...picky..I don't know
Er £2000 for the one owner Cossie
And I've seen em sell for under a ton!
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by faffi on Jun 18th, 2010, 10:06am
Purchase price matters very little - it's tyres, repairs, service and FUEL that makes up the big bills. Buying a very good car for 2000 can quickly prove a lot cheaper than buying something for 100 pounds sterling.

I want one myself. Best value for money there is, I reckon. My Mondeo is a better car in most ways, but gives no pleasure - it's transportation. The only thing I'd rather have than a Scorpio is a Jaguar S type. But I'm not sure it's worth 3-5 times as much money.
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by Highlander on Jun 18th, 2010, 10:34am

on 06/18/10 at 09:50:59, bonnietiler wrote:
Alright..alright..I've been away you know... "Facelift" then...cha...picky..I don't know
Er £2000 for the one owner Cossie
And I've seen em sell for under a ton!


Prices are definitely on the up BUT £2000 is among the very highest i've seen.

If you decide to spend that much on one, ditch the wife first!! ;)
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by bonnietiler on Jun 18th, 2010, 10:56am
I note that nobody is trying to make an attempt at justifying my potential purchase...hmmm
Well, I knew that you had to have to have a sense of humour before...perhaps "certification" is the requirement these days!
Bonnietiler
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by scorpio_man on Jun 18th, 2010, 11:00am
hi there

at that sort of price it would need to be perfect. very close attention would be need to be paid to underneath.

hth
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by bonnietiler on Jun 18th, 2010, 11:22am
Yes, I had one written off due to rust somewhere unreachable behind the rear wheels once?
I agree, if it doesn't look like it just came out of the Ford showroom, then walk away!
regards
BonnieT
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by faffi on Jun 18th, 2010, 12:09pm

on 06/18/10 at 10:06:12, faffi wrote:
The only thing I'd rather have than a Scorpio is a Jaguar S type. But I'm not sure it's worth 3-5 times as much money.


Just changed my mind!

http://www.carsurvey.org/reviews/jaguar/s-type/r54299/comments/

Only 22% of the owners could see themselved buying another Jaguar product, while 60% said never more Jag! The link above was a report that received 169 equally disgruntled replies. Poo.
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by Highlander on Jun 18th, 2010, 12:42pm
I looked at the S type too, rear wishbone bushes not available seperately, you need to buy the upper and lower arm from Jaguar (no pattern parts) at £500 per pair!
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by Waglet on Jun 18th, 2010, 5:09pm
So what sort of mielage does this 2 grand Scorp have and how many owners? If the rear wheel arches are mint offer the seller £1200 and work up a bit.....
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by bonnietiler on Jun 18th, 2010, 5:42pm
1 owner Full Ford history..No rust.. 74,000miles...although I've yet to see the invoices etc.
Radiant in red it is...
bonnietiler
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by Highlander on Jun 18th, 2010, 5:44pm
Sounds good but at that price it needs to be! It's your money though ;)
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by PJDavis on Jun 18th, 2010, 6:13pm
It's really 'horses for courses' isn't it?   I suppose if I was to count up everything I've done to mine in my sixteen months of ownership, then I would be quite surprised.   I'm still determined to get a set of steel wheels and put chunky-er tyres on, along with powder-coating my 12 spoke alloys, that will cost about £400, all in.   My car is only a 2.3, (by choice) and has absolutely no rust on it even underneath.   The paint-work is tired though, and there's a dink in the boot.   I got mine for about a £1000, (I say about because it needed taxing, although because it was a disabled tax on it I didn't know!)   Everything works on mine, but as folk know on here I've done a good bit of work on it to bring it right up to a really good standard.  

It would need to be a very good car for £2000 or more, but aint there a Gal on here that was trying to sell a supposed really good car?   On hind-sight, I would have waited longer and been patient until another member was selling a good car, and that would also get a bit of banter going when and if there was a wee problem.   Nothing like knowing where a car has come from, and buying from an honest person.   If it came to it in the future, I'd buy from someone off this site, although one might wait a long time!

Peter.
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by faffi on Jun 18th, 2010, 9:58pm
There is a basic 2.3 manual, no extras (no A/C) apart from adjustable headlights and heated front screen, with 40,000 miles for sale here at around £6600. Probably won't fetch it, but for £2000 here in Norway, you won't get much.
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by Simmo on Jun 19th, 2010, 8:02am
I wonder if Stuart has organised a freighter to take his fleet to Norway yet !!!:D ::)
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by tlundkvi on Jun 19th, 2010, 8:54am
Not the best of ideas to try, Denmark, Norway and Finland has a high car tax on top of VAT, paid on first/import registration. Of these countries Finland has the lowest tax. Systems are different but end result is the same, a lot of cash is collected.

To Finland, the import tax on a scorpio is roughly 700-1200 euros depending on what they retail for in Finland. Once you get a decision (one week to one month usually), tax needs to be paid in 10 days. Import MOT is 200 euros + license plate costs. I a finn drives a foreign car in Finland and gets caught, full tax will be collected, even if the car was borrowed or rented. The only loophole is when one moves to Finland, then you can take one car per adult, but you need to wait 1-3 years to sell it. Norway removed the system of tax free cars for new residents a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by faffi on Jun 19th, 2010, 9:28pm
Tax for a 1998 Scorpio Cosworth is about £ 14,000. Yes, fourteen thousand. In other words, not an option.
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by rich1 on Jun 19th, 2010, 9:28pm

on 06/19/10 at 08:54:28, tlundkvi wrote:
Not the best of ideas to try, Denmark, Norway and Finland has a high car tax on top of VAT, paid on first/import registration. Of these countries Finland has the lowest tax. Systems are different but end result is the same, a lot of cash is collected.

To Finland, the import tax on a scorpio is roughly 700-1200 euros depending on what they retail for in Finland. Once you get a decision (one week to one month usually), tax needs to be paid in 10 days. Import MOT is 200 euros + license plate costs. I a finn drives a foreign car in Finland and gets caught, full tax will be collected, even if the car was borrowed or rented. The only loophole is when one moves to Finland, then you can take one car per adult, but you need to wait 1-3 years to sell it. Norway removed the system of tax free cars for new residents a couple of years ago.


blimey , and i thought we got stung left right and centre over here .........that seems a lot of money to lay out
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by rich1 on Jun 19th, 2010, 9:32pm

on 06/18/10 at 12:09:35, faffi wrote:
Just changed my mind!

http://www.carsurvey.org/reviews/jaguar/s-type/r54299/comments/

Only 22% of the owners could see themselved buying another Jaguar product, while 60% said never more Jag! The link above was a report that received 169 equally disgruntled replies. Poo.


ive just got rid of my jag , 3.2 xj sport , nice car but far to small inside , i would go back to a jag as the ride is second to none imo , but not until the kids have grown up and left home,(and maybe the wifes b****red off too;-)), then i wouldnt have to worry about sqeezing them in
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by faffi on Jun 19th, 2010, 10:35pm
The XJ is a different animal with very happy owners for the most part. It's the new S that gets poor reviews.
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by martin_rowe on Jun 21st, 2010, 12:58pm
s-type is an excellant car
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by faffi on Jun 21st, 2010, 1:15pm
Did you read the owner's reports and their miseries?
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by Highlander on Jun 21st, 2010, 2:17pm

on 06/21/10 at 12:58:59, martin_rowe wrote:
s-type is an excellant car


I work with TWO S type owners who would disagree with that! ;)

but i suppose there are good and bad examples of every car
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by martin_rowe on Jun 21st, 2010, 5:36pm
I moved on to an S-Type (4.2, 400BHP type r) a couple of years ago, as with all vehicles you can get bad ones, those are usually the ones you hear about, the early ones suffer much the same problems as the scorps, later ones (2002 on) are a lot better. they are a prestigue carand have to be maintained as such, my typ-r is fantastic, even more economical than my 24v scorp.
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by Highlander on Jun 22nd, 2010, 10:27am
The Type R is nice! ;)

I'd have one of them!

No Harewood this year Martin or were you at the Jag section?
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by martin_rowe on Jun 22nd, 2010, 1:13pm
No, sorry missed it this year, last year was in a hire car (jag xj) I went to the national kit car show (which was crap) & then to a spring event (westfield championship) near Lichfield instead.
must admit the s-type is the ONLY car I have been in that reminded me so much of the scorp, in fact that is probably what the scorp would have evolved into had Ford carried on with it.
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by Highlander on Jun 22nd, 2010, 1:28pm
Theres a definite similarity, you can tell they're related ;)
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by steveo on Jun 25th, 2010, 7:07am
I have owned an s type jag 3.0 manual (didnt like it) xj is far superior in many ways had one years ago. i now have a 2.3 scorpio ghia,fraction of the price to buy about similar to run as the jag, get it bought you wont be happy until you do!!! but i would try to skim the price a few hundred if it was me,i wouldnt pay that. Steve.
Title: Re: I'm not at all well..I need some help?
Post by Albert_Ross on Jun 25th, 2010, 11:30pm
I just paid 70 quid for my 4 door 24V Ultima ..... taxed AND tested. All it needed was a top hose, duly sourced from a breaker for 9 quid. I did the tracking yesterday, and it's tons better to drive. Just needs the flaky bits and dents sorting.


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