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(Message started by: landlord on Aug 30th, 2010, 1:41pm)

Title: battery drain , still
Post by landlord on Aug 30th, 2010, 1:41pm
still got battery drain , (from full to flat in approx 5-6 hours )tryed using meter and pull all the relays , no change . but heres what i have found .
removed all the fuses from main box and put them back in one at a time , tested it , checked reading on meter then removed . so that there was only ONE fuse in at any time .the following fuses sent the meter off the scale
No 6     elec adjustable seat
No 17   electronics
No 22   door locking modules
No 25   power window
No 26   power window front

i can see there all internal items but is there a common connection , relay , etc that i should look at , i've been chasing this fault for days and still got it .
  i have till thursday a.m then i ment to go on holiday

help


 

Title: Re: battery drain , still
Post by Tompion on Aug 30th, 2010, 2:11pm
It might be worth checking at the back of the ashtray, have a look at these threads:

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Problems;action=display;num=1235477972

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Problems;action=display;num=1109097820

Title: Re: battery drain , still
Post by Highlander on Aug 30th, 2010, 2:43pm

on 08/30/10 at 13:41:16, landlord wrote:
still got battery drain , (from full to flat in approx 5-6 hours )i can see there all internal items but is there a common connection , relay , etc that i should look at


you may have a damp/corroded fusebox shorting these together and causing the drain

Title: Re: battery drain , still
Post by Cosray on Aug 30th, 2010, 2:56pm
Landlord,

a common cause that comes to mind in this case looks like a rotten door electronics module and/or its wiring. There is one in each front door, "talking" to each other for all kinds of situations and functions that you mentioned.

FORD introduced them to go with this multiplex wiring sebding data back and fro, very thin, to reduce cabling, looms and weight.

After 12+ years of service these thin, low-voltage signals carrying wiring is becoming vulnerable.

Now these doors are internally rather wet/moist because of seepage through the window sills.

Also when removing the doorcovers you may even find loose wiring caught by the windowraisers.

The doors also contain a separate relay, K50; all worth an inspection.

HTH,
Ray

Title: Re: battery drain , still
Post by Simmo on Aug 30th, 2010, 2:58pm
Try removing the  Power Saver Relay. Relay 16 in the parrsenger side fusebox. Are you sure that there isn't damp under that box?. Have you got a battery cover fitted and are the drain holes clear in the bulkhead in fron of the battery. :)
Also have a look at This page (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/battery.htm) which shows how to access the area.

Title: Re: battery drain , still
Post by Cosray on Aug 30th, 2010, 3:34pm

on 08/30/10 at 13:41:16, landlord wrote:
still got battery drain , (from full to flat in approx 5-6 hours )tryed using meter and pull all the relays , no change . but heres what i have found .
removed all the fuses from main box and put them back in one at a time , tested it , checked reading on meter then removed . so that there was only ONE fuse in at any time .the following fuses sent the meter off the scale
No 6     elec adjustable seat
No 17   electronics
No 22   door locking modules
No 25   power window
No 26   power window front

 


Landlord,
All these fuses point to heavy current users.

Apart from modules being possibly defect and would need swapping to eliminate I once had a switch on the side of the seat stuck i.e. stuck to the farthest position (which I always use, so I did not notice anything wrong), drawing not enough current to blow the fuse but upsetting all related functions.

Is it worth checking whether you have any of these "moment" switches stuck to a permanent position?

Are all "power"functions - apart from the battery drain - operational?

Windows, locking motors, global closing, power mirrors etc.?

Curious,
Ray

Title: Re: battery drain , still
Post by landlord on Aug 30th, 2010, 3:36pm
pulled the dash/removed radio , felt behind ashtray , no frayed wires or loose connections that i can find ! replaced both fuse box in past few days !
   any aother idea welcome , please

Title: Re: battery drain , still
Post by Highlander on Aug 30th, 2010, 4:33pm
So both fuseboxes have been replaced and the fault is still there?

Did this drain just start all of a sudden?
any other strange happenings?
have you tested to make sure its not the battery/alternator?
Is everything else working as Cosray suggested?

Title: Re: battery drain , still
Post by landlord on Aug 30th, 2010, 5:02pm
thanks to cosray , i hope .
  read your post , went and checked and found passenger seat control had been knocked , part on , part off .
  fixed seat control switch and put all fuses back in , so far so good .  
     got battery on charge at moment , will find out in morning if its still holding charge , hopfully we have got this one sorted !!
    thanks to all who have helped

Title: Re: battery drain , still
Post by Cosray on Sep 1st, 2010, 4:14pm
Hi Landlord, any progress?
Is your holiday secured?

Curious,
Ray



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