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(Message started by: misch on Nov 1^st, 2010, 3:05pm)

Title: 2.3 won't start
Post by misch on Nov 1^st, 2010, 3:05pm

Hi everyone,

Need some help. After disconnecting the battery, my scorp won't start, it turns over but thats all that happens.It seems like there is no fuel coming to the injectors.And, I don't know if that means anything, my PATS light is rapidly flashing when I turn the key on position III.

Misko

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Highlander on Nov 1^st, 2010, 3:35pm

Have you tried locking then unlocking the car?

Ckeck you've not missed one of the small black leads when reconnecting the -ve terminal of the battery

Also check the fuel cut off switch in the boot

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by misch on Nov 1^st, 2010, 4:19pm

Hi,
Yes I tried lock/unlocking it, I infact disconnected + terminal of the battery today, but I did so on many occasions and never had any problems. I checked also fuel cut-off switch (little red buttton in the trunk?), but I'm not sure if it needs to be pressed inside or depressed? And also I think there is no sound of fuel pump when turnin the ignition on

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Highlander on Nov 1^st, 2010, 5:07pm

Leave your ignition on and see what code the Pats light flashes

The engine does not start and LED remains off.

1. Check PATS system fuses
2. If alarm is fitted check if LED functions for alarm: if not check cigar lighter fuse (also used for LED)

3. If not go to main dealer

Engine does not start: LED flashes rapidly Leave ignition on until the LED starts to flash a 2 digit code: (sequence- pause-sequence) Check the following codes:

Code flashes:

1:3 Key code not received. Is key screened by other keys or objects? Try different key: if okay then first key is faulty.
If not go to main dealer

1:4 Partial code only received. Try again. If not okay use different key.
If not go to main dealer

1:5 Key not programmed into PATS. Program key as above using master

1:6 Faulty link between PATS module and EECV
Go to main dealer

p.s. can i ask why your battery was disconnected? is it in good condition?

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by misch on Nov 1^st, 2010, 5:18pm

Thanks Highlander,thats where the problem is..the PATS
I tried with ignition on, and after flashing rapidliy it flashes 1:6 code, so I will need to go to the main delaer? or is there another way (the cheaper) to sort this problem.And I'm also curious how did this happened, by doing nothing but disconnecting the battery, was it just coincidence or...?

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Highlander on Nov 1^st, 2010, 5:26pm

Check the fuses

Check F31, F34, F37 and F42 in auxiliary fuse box

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/images/battery_fusebox.gif

Check Fuses F16 and F17 in main fuse box

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/images/central_fusebox.gif

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by misch on Nov 2^nd, 2010, 4:57pm

Thank you Highlander...again
Fuse F37 was blown, after replacing it, car fires instantly and works just fine as it should be.
It's very nice feeling fixing something by your own, and especially when the cost of repair is only few cents :D
Misko

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Highlander on Nov 2^nd, 2010, 5:10pm

on 11/02/10 at 16:57:22, misch wrote:

It's very nice feeling fixing something by your own

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Chieftain on Nov 2^nd, 2010, 5:25pm

Sort of warm glow and nothing out of the wallet ;D

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by PJDavis on Nov 2^nd, 2010, 6:40pm

Yet again Stuart comes to the rescue. Scorpio weight in Gold! :D

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Mike H on Nov 2^nd, 2010, 6:45pm

Very good http://livinginthepast-audioweb.co.uk/images/misc/clap.gif

Which leaves the question why did F37 go

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Highlander on Nov 2^nd, 2010, 8:04pm

I suspect the battery being disconnected and reconnected may be the culprit since these fuses will be constantly live, might just have been a small surge, that fuse is only 7 amp

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Tompion on Nov 2^nd, 2010, 8:16pm

20 amp in the Handbook, but I agree probably from the battery disconnect.

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Highlander on Nov 2^nd, 2010, 8:18pm

Yeah I was looking at the wrong one again! ;D

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by misch on Nov 17^th, 2010, 9:14pm

Hi guys!
Me again :(
Unfortunately it went off again (F37)... 4-5 times already, it happens only when starting the car, not while driving, and not every time I start the car, every few days. The first time it hapened, I disconnected the battery, but I also changed the LPG filter (which is not that easy to acces, lots of wires around), and while doing that probably strained some wires, what do you think, any ideas?

Misko