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(Message started by: pauldo on Jul 30th, 2011, 10:37pm)
Title: I think my scorpio has died
Post by pauldo on Jul 30th, 2011, 10:37pm
I was driving back from town today and there was a tremendous rattling noise from under the car for about a mile  then it lost power  and just stopped  it would not restart  it just turned over very weakly. About 5 mins later plumes of smoke not steam poured out of the exhaust for about 7 mins. The RAC will deliver it to my local garage on monday so will get a diagnosis hopefully early next week.i am well p####d of as it has only done 50000 miles.
Title: Re: I think my scorpio has died
Post by Tompion on Jul 30th, 2011, 10:49pm
Might be the cat collapsed and blocked the exhaust.
Title: Re: I think my scorpio has died
Post by pauldo on Jul 30th, 2011, 11:16pm
thats a good suggestion  as the noise sounded like an exhaust heat shield problem i had on a previous car. The RAC guy thought it was the head gasket  but he also wanted to tow my automatic car
Title: Re: I think my scorpio has died
Post by scorpio_man on Jul 31st, 2011, 9:18am
hi there

check and see if the 2 rubber tubes have blown off the egr valve. that would point to the cat/exhaust as being the issue.

hth
Title: Re: I think my scorpio has died
Post by amigafan2003 on Aug 2nd, 2011, 9:55am

on 07/30/11 at 23:16:14, pauldo wrote:
but he also wanted to tow my automatic car


What's wrong ith towing an auto?

As long as it's kept below 30mph and less than 30 miles in distance then it's no probs.
Title: Re: I think my scorpio has died
Post by Mike H on Aug 2nd, 2011, 7:43pm
But supposing it isn't? ;D
Title: Re: I think my scorpio has died
Post by pauldo on Aug 2nd, 2011, 8:23pm
Everyone has their own opinion but i would never tow an automatic.
Title: Re: I think my scorpio has died
Post by Mike H on Aug 4th, 2011, 6:40pm
He's going by wot it sez in the handbook. But I wouldn't like to either....
Title: Re: I think my scorpio has died
Post by Highlander on Aug 4th, 2011, 7:23pm
Towing means the gearbox will be turning internally without any oil as the oil pump is worked from the engine end I believe

So it should cause damage over time.

I once towed a 24v from London to Scotland on an A-frame at motorway speeds 60-70 all the way with the intenion of breaking it for spares anyway so wasn't really bothered about gearbox damage.

Got it home, decided it was too good to break, put it back on the road and its run fine ever since (5 years) and not a hint of anything wrong from the gearbox ???

Dunno if i'd try it with some of the newer stuff though ;D
Title: Re: I think my scorpio has died
Post by Mike H on Aug 4th, 2011, 7:27pm
That's a good point about the pump not working, hadn't thought of that ~ but then again as you say if there's some oil about and also the gubbins aren't under load, can't be that bad
Title: Re: I think my scorpio has died
Post by MrJones on Aug 6th, 2011, 2:34pm
Will the gearbox change gear under tow with engin off?
Title: Re: I think my scorpio has died
Post by PJDavis on Aug 6th, 2011, 6:27pm
I would be asking 'The-Old-Bare-Footer' about towing an Auto-Box.   He's the expert!    8)
Title: Re: I think my scorpio has died
Post by rich1 on Aug 6th, 2011, 8:28pm

on 08/04/11 at 19:23:17, Highlander wrote:
Towing means the gearbox will be turning internally without any oil as the oil pump is worked from the engine end I believe

So it should cause damage over time.

I once towed a 24v from London to Scotland on an A-frame at motorway speeds 60-70 all the way with the intenion of breaking it for spares anyway so wasn't really bothered about gearbox damage.

Got it home, decided it was too good to break, put it back on the road and its run fine ever since (5 years) and not a hint of anything wrong from the gearbox ???

Dunno if i'd try it with some of the newer stuff though ;D

stuart , was that my old motor? i miss that car  :'(
Title: Re: I think my scorpio has died
Post by gozz on Aug 6th, 2011, 9:22pm

on 08/06/11 at 18:27:21, PJDavis wrote:
I would be asking 'The-Old-Bare-Footer' about towing an Auto-Box.   He's the expert!    8)


Blimey PJ,are you saying he is devoid of clobber ?, must be that all consuming project of his  :o
                                    GOZZ.
Title: Re: I think my scorpio has died
Post by Highlander on Aug 6th, 2011, 11:49pm

on 08/06/11 at 20:28:00, rich1 wrote:
stuart , was that my old motor? i miss that car  :'(



No that was another one :)

I disconnected the prop on yours before heading home.
Title: Re: I think my scorpio has died
Post by Mike H on Aug 9th, 2011, 12:22pm

on 08/06/11 at 14:34:38, MrJones wrote:
Will the gearbox change gear under tow with engin off?

Handbook just says put gear selector in position 'N' (?)

Assuming it's being towed on a rope with you steering etc., book also says ignition must in position 2 ("II") so steering wheel is not locked (!!!!) also brake lights and indicators will work.

Warning: steering is going to be very heavy without power assist, also possibly brakes efficiency.


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