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(Message started by: lleewar on Aug 31st, 2011, 1:56am)
Title: Car breakdown.
Post by lleewar on Aug 31st, 2011, 1:56am
Hi Guys, The ultimate has happened and the headgasket has gone on my 2.0L. The temp guage went topside real quick, steam out of the exhaust followed by water then oil coming out of the air intake pipe. Had to be transported home by the AA. Not sure if it's worth repairing( never done a headgasket before)
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by Matt on Aug 31st, 2011, 9:42am
You need to take the head off and assess the damage, being a 2.0 it shouldnt of cracked the head between 2 and 3 but you need to check

head gasket kits are readily available
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by gozz on Aug 31st, 2011, 9:47am
You will need to get the head faced because they warp,and use a new set of headbolts because they stretch,the timing chain tensioner can't be reused,they are about 30 quid.I thought to advise you of these things Lee so that you can add them to your estimate,good luck with it.
                                           GOZZ.
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by lleewar on Aug 31st, 2011, 9:49am
Funny, of all the people on this site, I kinda guessed you would be one of the first to answer :) When it went, I noticed that the back of the engine was smoking slightly. Never, ever done one before so i ask is it a pretty easy job for a first timer who,s good with his hands. The timing thing would be the thing that would baffle me.  Lee    
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by lleewar on Aug 31st, 2011, 9:51am
Gozz, I do have the old 2.0L still. Pinch the head and bolts from there ???
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by Matt on Aug 31st, 2011, 10:05am
LOL  ;D

Yeah the 2.0 is a pretty easy one to work on, its pretty much the same engine as the escort rs2000 and theres still a few of those kicking round

Genuine ford Head Gasket only here
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-PARTS-Ford-Scorpio-94-98-Cylinder-Head-Gasket-/180715658636?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2a137e1d8c

but id personally got for a full kit and do the vavle seals and other gaskets while its all off

You can save some work as you can remove the head with both the intake and exhaust manifolds still attached!

the engine pdf on the site is worth a read through first
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/manual/engines/dohc16v/DOHC16VCHead.pdf
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by lesterlad aka Rodders on Aug 31st, 2011, 12:22pm

on 08/31/11 at 09:51:39, lleewar wrote:
Gozz, I do have the old 2.0L still. Pinch the head and bolts from there ???


No Lee, Bolts HAVE to be new ones, those on your doner car will have stretched.
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by Dave2302 on Sep 1st, 2011, 2:54am

on 08/31/11 at 09:51:39, lleewar wrote:
Gozz, I do have the old 2.0L still. Pinch the head and bolts from there ???


If that one is a good runner, it would be easier and cheaper to just swap the engines Lee

Cheers Dave
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by gozz on Sep 1st, 2011, 8:58am

on 09/01/11 at 02:54:43, Dave2302 wrote:
If that one is a good runner, it would be easier and cheaper to just swap the engines Lee

Cheers Dave


This is very true,definitely the best course of action if you have the wherewithal or access to it.
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by lleewar on Sep 2nd, 2011, 1:23am
W.ould love to do that but no equipment, no idea and billy no mates to boot
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by Dave2302 on Sep 2nd, 2011, 6:39pm
Lee,

Hire an engine crane locally for the weekend, use the workshop manual on here for a step by step guide on how to do it  ;)

It is a lot simpler to unplug and unbolt an engine than swap a head and re-time it  ;)

Cheers Dave
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Sep 2nd, 2011, 10:01pm
Agree with Dave2302 - swapping an engine out is not that difficult with a crane or hoist [ Anyone remember those 'Haltrac' Gantry things ? ] and basic hand tools, just tackle everything logically.
I've done a fair few over the years and I'm only a DIYer.  
I recall feeling a great sense of acheivement when I did the first one and proved a few people who told me I couldn't do it wrong.
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by Mike H on Sep 9th, 2011, 8:32pm
Problee quicker than rebuilding a head as well ~ Lee what was the original problem that stopped the grey Ultima from working, I've forgotten  ::)
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by lleewar on Sep 10th, 2011, 12:45am
A spot of black ice and a crash barrier  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by Mike H on Sep 10th, 2011, 1:17pm
Oh yeah! Which pranged the EDIS or something didn't it?
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by lleewar on Sep 14th, 2011, 11:59am
The whole front took the brunt. broken after that.
Getting back to my recent car, I think it has another problem in that I can push the car backwards and forwards in all the gears :o Gearbox gone as well ???
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by Mike H on Sep 14th, 2011, 12:28pm
Yeah but no but you can do that with an automatic? It's only properly locked in 'Park' (by a pin).

No ratios can be engaged if there's no oil pressure, and there's no oil pressure because engine isn't running. (?)

Even if they could, torque converter will still just slip.
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by lleewar on Sep 20th, 2011, 8:54pm
Have seen a head gasket cure called "steel seal" at 29.99  and the write up for it and the satisfied customers are huge. Only one return out of 400. 100% guaranteed. Anyone seen it and what are your thoughts. Lee
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by Matt on Sep 20th, 2011, 9:40pm
Theres a genuine ford one on ebay for 30 quid

I use the motaquip stuff myself
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by Andycan on Sep 20th, 2011, 9:53pm
I have been on the steel seal website and used their stockist locator. It stated that 2 firms stocked it close to me but when I went to them they had never heard of it let alone stocked it.
If they lie about their stockists could they lie about their product?
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by lleewar on Sep 21st, 2011, 7:11pm
Andy, had a bottle in my hand. It might definitley be worth a try or the one on ebay as Matt suggested. Lee
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by pedropedro on Sep 21st, 2011, 7:58pm
you need drain the system to use steel seal......i was recommended K Seal and it worked perfectly & its half the price . just pour in header tank..i had a gasket or crack in head; water coming out of exhaust ...link to a youtube demo of the stuff   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqfp3PFJQJk
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by Andycan on Sep 21st, 2011, 8:09pm
I agree Lee what I meant was if they are telling people that certain companies stock it when they don't then could they be saying it works when it doesn't.
I also think the get out clause for the money back offer is a bit off as it could cost you more than the cost of the product  to get a written report from a garage confirming your headgasket had gone before you used it.

As for billy nomates you have loads here and I for 1 would have come down to help you if I had a car running and some spare cash for petrol.
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by lleewar on Sep 22nd, 2011, 10:52pm
Andy, Thanks and I know i,m not alone regarding these cars but time is also an enemy. Putting too many miles on my better car so something has to be done and sharpish. Lee
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by Andycan on Sep 22nd, 2011, 11:28pm
Well mine is the only car I have and it spends more time off the road broken down at the moment than it does on the road but I want to rebuild it but the breakdowns take up all my time and are the priority.
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by Mike H on Nov 2nd, 2011, 7:59pm
How's this getting on now?
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by lleewar on Nov 2nd, 2011, 9:21pm
Hi Mike, Still not attempted anything yet as was busy at work, but that's all changed as i was made redundant today  :( :( :(. Might have time on my hands now.
Title: Re: Car breakdown.
Post by Mike H on Nov 3rd, 2011, 4:53pm
Oh flippin' 'eck


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