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(Message started by: FinnishFrog on Nov 18th, 2011, 2:39pm)
Title: Foglight upgrade
Post by FinnishFrog on Nov 18th, 2011, 2:39pm
so I bought foglights, headlight switch and relay
everything in place, relay in R9

front foglights work only in parking light position.
when in dipped/main position even the front foglight symbol light won't come on.

I read that in some countries there's also R35, somewhere behind instrument panel, can someone please tell me, where exactly is it.

Car is bought from Sweden.

Thanks already!
Title: Re: Foglight upgrade
Post by Mike H on Nov 21st, 2011, 10:33pm
Have you seen FOG_LAMPS wiring diagram here?

https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=eb36f845ea9b8fb6&id=EB36F845EA9B8FB6%21146

i know it says (REAR) but front wiring also shown on page 8 etc.

You say you got "headlights switch", is this a Scorpio one with both fog functions on it?
Title: Re: Foglight upgrade
Post by FinnishFrog on Nov 22nd, 2011, 12:54pm

on 11/21/11 at 22:33:14, Mike H wrote:
Have you seen FOG_LAMPS wiring diagram here?

https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=eb36f845ea9b8fb6&id=EB36F845EA9B8FB6%21146

i know it says (REAR) but front wiring also shown on page 8 etc.

You say you got "headlights switch", is this a Scorpio one with both fog functions on it?


yes I've seen it, but i didn't find relay or a place for relay (R35).
Originally car didn't have foglamps, so i bought them and headlight switch with both (front and rear) fog functions on it (from a scrap scorpio), and relay (R9).
Is it possible that switch just works that way (Front fogs only work with parking light position)?
Is there any diagram/picture from headlight switch where you can see what pin is what?
Title: Re: Foglight upgrade
Post by Mike H on Nov 22nd, 2011, 8:53pm
No that doesn't sound right at all, supposed to be:

-1. park (anti-clockwise)
0. off
2. side lights [dim dip] (clockwise)
3. head lights

Only possible in position #3:
pull out 1 step: front fogs
pull out 2 steps: rear fogs (+ front)

Somewhere there must be connections for the pull out #1, at the moment it sounds like you've got them wired from the dim-dip function?

Dim-dip is done by a relay which is only activated through: 1. ignition switch and, 2. side lights position of lighting switch (pos #1), BUT, this particular output is only 'live' in this one position, in all other positions it's off so no dim-dip.

Title: Re: Foglight upgrade
Post by FinnishFrog on Nov 23rd, 2011, 3:28am

on 11/22/11 at 20:53:09, Mike H wrote:
No that doesn't sound right at all, supposed to be:

-1. park (anti-clockwise)
0. off
2. side lights [dim dip] (clockwise)
3. head lights

Only possible in position #3:
pull out 1 step: front fogs
pull out 2 steps: rear fogs (+ front)

Somewhere there must be connections for the pull out #1, at the moment it sounds like you've got them wired from the dim-dip function?

Dim-dip is done by a relay which is only activated through: 1. ignition switch and, 2. side lights position of lighting switch (pos #1), BUT, this particular output is only 'live' in this one position, in all other positions it's off so no dim-dip.

Sorry, I writed wrong.
Front fogs only work on position 2. Side lights [dim dip]
So I was wondering, if there's one pin behind switch where should come input for front fogs, if I could "hotwired" from headlights
Title: Re: Foglight upgrade
Post by Mike H on Nov 24th, 2011, 1:34pm
Yes I understood, that is not correct as you have said, should only be possible to operate fogs in position 3. Position 2 is not right.

According to wiring diagram there should be separate outputs on the light switch which are specific to fog lights, both front & rear.
Title: Re: Foglight upgrade
Post by FinnishFrog on Nov 24th, 2011, 2:41pm

on 11/24/11 at 13:34:12, Mike H wrote:
Yes I understood, that is not correct as you have said, should only be possible to operate fogs in position 3. Position 2 is not right.

According to wiring diagram there should be separate outputs on the light switch which are specific to fog lights, both front & rear.


I believe it should be possible to work both, position 2 and 3, here in Finland.
I was wondering if there' some pin for fog triggering, so i could jump trigger current from position 3 headlight output to fog input, diode in between of course?
Title: Re: Foglight upgrade
Post by Tompion on Nov 24th, 2011, 6:13pm
I know people have had trouble sorting out this type of light problem with country variations other than the UK.

I’ve just looked through my posts as I knew I’d replied to some.

Sorry I’ve not read through it all to check the relevance. Some of it is about daytime lights, but there may be something of use.

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Problems;action=display;num=1233386234;start=6#6

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Problems;action=display;num=1234798910;start=1#1

This is a long thread & the link takes you to page 3 where I posted.
NOTE there is some misinformation by wojtekor & possibly others in this thread:
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Advice;action=display;num=1247914429;start=45#45


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