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(Message started by: Daniel on Jun 3rd, 2012, 4:26pm)

Title: A few questions 24v
Post by Daniel on Jun 3rd, 2012, 4:26pm
Hi all
On our 24v we have a toad alarm system and its getting annoying seems way to sensitive  ::) how would i disconnect? Think the ford one still connected because that has gone off before but i dont have the ford fob its the toad one.

Also the heaters dont seem to work properly AC dosnt seem to change temp half as quickly as old 2.3 and the windows hardley clear up and when heater blower on whenever you out your foot down there is a annoying whining noise but when off it goes (somthing to do with fans?) ???

And we have a oil leek what could that be ??? drives fine and does need a oil change but no clues to what it is. Temp seems fine hoping not head gasket  :(  ???  

Any answers will really help car will be going for a service soon so might find things then.
Dan  ;D

Title: Re: A few questions 24v
Post by Mike H on Jun 3rd, 2012, 6:38pm
Arming the "native" built-in Ford alarm is done whenever car is locked, either by using the key or the Ford remote key fob, doesn't matter which.
Best way I know of (from experience) of defeating the Ford alarm is to disconnect one of the sensor switches, bonnet one is easiest, can't be set then so won't work. (The other sensor switches being doors and boot.)

HTH

Title: Re: A few questions 24v
Post by Mike H on Jun 3rd, 2012, 6:41pm
I'll leave the rest for the other experts ;D

More info on the "oil leak" probably needed, where from exactly?


Title: Re: A few questions 24v
Post by Daniel on Jun 3rd, 2012, 6:53pm
Not sure where abouts the oil leak is exactly but will find out asap so i can let you all know. And thanks for advice on alarm.
Dan  ;D

Title: Re: A few questions 24v
Post by leewar on Jun 3rd, 2012, 7:40pm
Daniel, Don't disconnect the ford alarm, disconnect the toad alarm. It's not really needed as the ford alarm is really quite good. Is there a positive running from the live side of the battery feeding the toad alarm? Fused somewhere along the line?
Whining sound could be the  fan motor beginning to fail. Cheers Lee

Title: Re: A few questions 24v
Post by Mike H on Jun 3rd, 2012, 8:16pm
I took it he meant disconnect the toad.

Is it a movement / vibration sensor type? (The toad). I have tried some of those before they're just a pain in the A. R. S. E....


Title: Re: A few questions 24v
Post by Daniel on Jun 3rd, 2012, 8:40pm
To be honest im not to sure  :-[ i think it is a movement one and the way youve described it sounds spot on a real pain  ::) I will remove it when i get the chance. How long do you think the alarm will go on for if i cant hear it and left? Going to out tomorrow and dont want it to be going off and annoying people whilst left in car park we wont be far from it just playing on my mind.

With the fans do you mean the ac/heater blower fans failing and not the fans for the car or the other way around sorry to sound thick but not very good with engines and so on  :-[
Thanks for help
Dan  

Title: Re: A few questions 24v
Post by Mike H on Jun 3rd, 2012, 9:44pm
No idea about the alarm time. Can't remember what mine were, 30 seconds or summink?

The one that also monitored the battery Voltage was a doozy, meant couldn't leave it with the hazards on


Title: Re: A few questions 24v
Post by Matt on Jun 3rd, 2012, 11:07pm
How good is the battery?

you've already said its gone dead with just the radio going...

The toad system isnt like a cheap one you can get from any motor factors, the scorpio looms will have been cut and joined to fit it. plus its there for a reason, maybe the original one doesn't work? that said if you find the toad module you should be able to turn the sensitivity donw

as for the oil leak what colour is the oil?

stick some cardboard under it over night that cover the engine and gearbox area, then you should know were its dripping from

Title: Re: A few questions 24v
Post by leewar on Jun 3rd, 2012, 11:57pm
The heater blower fan below the windscreen wipers where the HCM is

Title: Re: A few questions 24v
Post by Daniel on Jun 4th, 2012, 7:47am
Thanks to everyone for the help  ;D, Matt, we decided to change the battery over from the old one and it was a stronger batt than what was on it so all fine now with that  :D I wont rush into getting it removed now with the oil i will do that tonight and get back to you.
Dan  ;D

Title: Re: A few questions 24v
Post by Mike H on Jun 4th, 2012, 11:29am

on 06/03/12 at 23:07:09, Matt wrote:
The toad system isnt like a cheap one you can get from any motor factors, the scorpio looms will have been cut and joined to fit it.

AARRRGHH!!!  :-/


Quote:
plus its there for a reason, maybe the original one doesn't work? that said if you find the toad module you should be able to turn the sensitivity down

Yes should do.

See also:
Google Search (https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&biw=1076&bih=549&sclient=psy-ab&q=toad+car+alarm+problems&oq=toad+car+alarm+&aq=2&aqi=g4&aql=&gs_l=hp.1.2.0l4.889.889.5.2730.1.1.0.0.0.0.156.156.0j1.1.0...0.0.sgN2AqK9Bdk&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=78f2f562626d6356)

Title: Re: A few questions 24v
Post by Matt on Jun 4th, 2012, 4:06pm
its also worth finding the unit to see if its a Thatcham approved unit, if it is you should tell your insurance, will make it slightly cheaper

Title: Re: A few questions 24v
Post by Daniel on Jun 10th, 2012, 2:26pm
Ive just found out the alarm is
Toad Ai606. It is a Cat1 thatcham approved unit.
Any Good if so i will tell insurance if it saves some money.
Dan  ;D

Title: Re: A few questions 24v
Post by Matt on Jun 10th, 2012, 3:35pm
yep deffo worth telling the insurance, Thatcham Category 1 is the best cat, (they are also cats 2 and 3, 3 being a steering crook lock for example)



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