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(Message started by: georgeodyphotos on Feb 12^th, 2014, 11:21pm)

Title: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by georgeodyphotos on Feb 12^th, 2014, 11:21pm

Hi Guys. I am in urgent need of a top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima estate. Does anyone have one please? 5stud said he had one but I can't seem to get a response from him now.

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by Jonnycab on Feb 13^th, 2014, 3:31am

There is no such thing as a top wiring loom (wires that go to the 2 coil packs in a 2.3)....It is one big loom that connects all the engine sensors & coil packs...and plugs in to a connector on the O/S inner wing of the engine bay and held with a 10mm bolt. It's official name is the 'fuel cut off loom'.
If the top part of the loom insulation is all brittle & broken, then it's likely that the part of the loom that runs down to the inlet manifold sensors & crank/oil sensors will probably be in the same condition (Ford aren't that brilliant at shielding their cheap insulate wiring)....which will mean the car will sporadically break down at the most inconvenient moments & will only restart (embarrassingly) just when the AA arrive ::)

The top part of the loom can be re-insulated, but the only real way forward (unless you are good at replacing wiring) is a whole new or good second hand 'fuel cut off loom' :)

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Feb 13^th, 2014, 7:10am

I think you can still buy a brand new replacement from Ford Parts UK for around £200 with VAT :o

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by Simmo on Feb 13^th, 2014, 7:24am

If you go to the home page of the site, click on Ford Scorpio at the top of this page to do so, and click on 'Spikies' advert you'll see he has looms for £75. ;)

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by gozz on Feb 13^th, 2014, 8:47am

on 02/12/14 at 23:21:34, georgeodyphotos wrote:

Hi Guys. I am in urgent need of a top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima estate. Does anyone have one please? 5stud said he had one but I can't seem to get a response from him now.

Send Rodders a PM.he may be able to help you

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by georgeodyphotos on Feb 13^th, 2014, 1:27pm

Thanks Gozz. How do I find Rodders? Have looked through the listing and can't see 'Rodders'. Does he have another name please? George.

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by georgeodyphotos on Feb 13^th, 2014, 1:55pm

Can't afford too much for a loom. Only a poor pensioner now. :'(

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by Simmo on Feb 13^th, 2014, 4:28pm

on 02/13/14 at 13:27:17, georgeodyphotos wrote:

Thanks Gozz. How do I find Rodders? Have looked through the listing and can't see 'Rodders'. Does he have another name please? George.

Title is: lesterlad aka Rodders

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by gozz on Feb 13^th, 2014, 10:11pm

Thanks Simmo,I just picked this up.
GOZZ.

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by 5stud on Feb 14^th, 2014, 11:22am

didnt see your pm will look it out the weekend if you can pick it up from tintinhull you can have it

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by georgeodyphotos on Feb 14^th, 2014, 6:04pm

Thanks 5stud. That is very kind of you. Is that what they call the fuel cut off
loom ? Is it complete with plugs? I can get to Tintinhull which I think is near Yeovil? Regards, George.

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by lesterlad aka Rodders on Feb 14^th, 2014, 7:27pm

georgeodyphotos.
I have sent you an email via Image Shack showing you the two different types of the fuel shut off loom main connectors that I'm familiar with.
1) 2.3 Ghia manual
2) 2.3 Ultima auto

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by georgeodyphotos on Feb 15^th, 2014, 7:00pm

Thank you Rodders. I will pick them up.

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by 5stud on Feb 15^th, 2014, 10:13pm

hi found the loom out today let me know if you still nead it i
on 02/14/14 at 18:04:38, georgeodyphotos wrote:

Thanks 5stud. That is very kind of you. Is that what they call the fuel cut off
loom ? Is it complete with plugs? I can get to Tintinhull which I think is near Yeovil? Regards, George.

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by georgeodyphotos on Feb 16^th, 2014, 7:43pm

Hi 5stud. Is the loom for an Ultima auto please? Apparently the one for the Ghia manual is different and won't work on my car. If it's the correct one I would like it please.

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by 5stud on Feb 17^th, 2014, 11:14am

hi over the years i have changed and repaired and swoped quite a few cutoff looms never found a diferent one .
on 02/16/14 at 19:43:35, georgeodyphotos wrote:

Hi 5stud. Is the loom for an Ultima auto please? Apparently the one for the Ghia manual is different and won't work on my car. If it's the correct one I would like it please.

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by lesterlad aka Rodders on Feb 17^th, 2014, 8:12pm

on 02/17/14 at 11:14:59, 5stud wrote:

hi over the years i have changed and repaired and swoped quite a few cutoff looms never found a diferent one .

When my loom died a couple of years ago on my 2.3 Ghia (manual) I fitted a two yr old one from a 2.0ltr Ultima auto.
It would not work, admittedly the engine ran but the main problem was the cooling fans and the idle speed, fitted a brand new one (stating VIN number) from Ford Parts.uk and every thing worked as it should.

Pics below are of the different pin configuration,

2.0ltr Ultima auto
http://imageshack.com/a/img412/7960/loom002.jpg

2.3 Ghia manual
http://imageshack.com/a/img837/5372/loom004.jpg

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by Tompion on Feb 17^th, 2014, 9:52pm

I added to the posts about it here:
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Advice;action=display;num=1297963223;start=1#1

& here:
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Problems;action=display;num=1296328647;start=88#88

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by 5stud on Feb 17^th, 2014, 10:01pm

nowonder you had problems the 2.016v loom is deferent .its not the manual-auto bit its the 2.0 16v 2.3 16v manifolds that makes the diference . ford cant even get it right in thear technical drawings that are on this site they show the coils bolted to front off the head on the 2.o 16v and 2.3 16v but the drawing is a 2.0 8v.
on 02/17/14 at 20:12:15, lesterlad aka Rodders wrote:

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by georgeodyphotos on Mar 15^th, 2014, 9:08pm

Well, fuel cut off loom now fitted to my 2.3 Ultima. Started first turn of the key! Well chuffed! The car hasn't run since October. One small problem now is that the radio is dead. I checked the fuse and it's OK. Is there any way that we may have disturbed a feed to the radio and where should I start looking? I must have my sounds! ;)

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by scorpio_man on Mar 15^th, 2014, 10:18pm

hi there

have you tried switching it off and on? might be the display has failed while sitting for so long.

hth

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by Snoopy on Mar 16^th, 2014, 8:10am

Make sure the removable panel is fitted correctly. Well worth taking it out and giving it a wile with a dry duster.

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by georgeodyphotos on Mar 16^th, 2014, 11:40am

Tried both these things guys. In the past the display was sometimes blank, but still lit up.
This time, nothing at all. Can't even eject tape. ???

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by Andycan on Mar 16^th, 2014, 12:03pm

Maybe some of the wires in the connectors are fryed or broken? My display had gone and the radio unit would come on and off on when it felt like it but after taking it out I found a couple of freyed wires and 1 that had been cut through. After repairing them and rerouting them the display was back and so was the radio.

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by Jonnycab on Mar 23^rd, 2014, 2:14am

Are interior lights dead as well ?....If so, check fuse 36 (power saver) in battery side fusebox :)

Title: Re: Top wiring loom for 2.3 Ultima.
Post by georgeodyphotos on Mar 26^th, 2014, 10:31am

No Jonnycab, interior lights ok. I now know that power is reaching the radio as when I took off the security panel, there is a red flashing light and also the display now lights up, although the radio is dead. Tried putting in the security code even though the display is blank, but to no avail. ??? ???