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(Message started by: Bobbit on Feb 10^th, 2015, 2:01pm)

Title: 2.3 won't start
Post by Bobbit on Feb 10^th, 2015, 2:01pm

Hi guys,
I hope someone can help me with this problem.
Started and used car yesterday, stopped at shop, when I tried to start it again it turned over very slugishly but eventually started.
Whent to start it this morning and all it does is click, I have had no needles flying round dials as is usually the case with a dead battery.
Put voltmeter on battery and it shows 12 volts, battery is about 1year old, headlights are very bright and do not go dim?
It is a 1996 2.3 estate.
Any help please
Cheers Bob

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Tompion on Feb 10^th, 2015, 2:35pm

Hi Bob

Might just be a bad earth or poor live connection at the battery or the starter solenoid. Check all heavy cable connections bearing in mind some stay live.
First try a jump lead from the battery earth to a good earth on the engine – if it is a poor earth that should make it turn over better.

Dave

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Bobbit on Feb 10^th, 2015, 3:19pm

Hi tompion thanks for that, Tried the earth jump lead, made no difference, i will have to get underneath tommorrow and have a look at starter solenoid connections, have cleaned all battery connections.
Cheers Bob

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by brds on Feb 10^th, 2015, 5:28pm

If it clicks, the solenoid is OK. It's probably a dirty connection on the brushes which is easy to fix. You just need a short piece of plastic pipe, the same diameter as the commutator when reassembling the brushes onto the end plate.
Cut a notch in the end so that you can assemble the brushes onto the end-plate and then slide the plate & brushes from the piece of pipe onto the commutator.
You can even do it without taking the starter out.

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Bobbit on Feb 12^th, 2015, 5:18pm

Hi Guys,
problem solved, it was a loose connection on solonoid, tightened and cleaned and all ok again.
Thanks for the help.
Cheers Bob

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Tompion on Feb 14^th, 2015, 10:42am

Thanks for letting us know Bob, glad you've sorted it :)

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Bobbit on Feb 22^nd, 2015, 12:12pm

Well here we are again >:(
Car will not start again, when you turn the key there is no clicking now, just nothing.
All dials and lights are ok and battery is fully charged.
Do you think it needs a new starter motor.
hope someone can tell me.
Thanks again
Bob

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Tompion on Feb 22^nd, 2015, 12:49pm

Assuming it's an auto have you tried it in neutral as well as park in case there's a problem with the start inhibitor.

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Bobbit on Feb 22^nd, 2015, 1:41pm

hi Tompion,
No it is 5 speed manual box.
Cheers
Bob

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by GrahamT on Feb 23^rd, 2015, 3:04pm

Have you rechecked the connection?

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Bobbit on Feb 23^rd, 2015, 3:22pm

Yes all connections checked cleaned and tightened , still nothing when try to start. it all points to starter motor to me?

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by brds on Feb 23^rd, 2015, 5:15pm

You could try giving it a tap with a hammer - you've got nothing to loose.

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Bobbit on Feb 23^rd, 2015, 6:58pm

used two hammers no change.
i think its going to be a new starter
cheers
Bob

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by a900one on Feb 23^rd, 2015, 10:14pm

You need to check that you. are getting 12v to the starter when you turn the key to start, small wire. You can also bridge the big terminals on the starter, BIG sparks, to see if it trys to start. If nothing happens with second option, starter dead. :o

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Bobbit on Feb 24^th, 2015, 2:32pm

Thanks for that a900one,
I am not up too well on electrics, I have a voltmeter , I put the red probe
on the solonoid small connecter but where does the black probe go :-/
still no sound at all when key is turned, just dead, all lights etc all ok.
Cheers
Bob

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Tompion on Feb 24^th, 2015, 4:42pm

Bob, put the other probe to earth/body of the starter.

Dave

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Bobbit on Feb 25^th, 2015, 2:39pm

Hi guys,
Shorted two terminals out on starter motor, big flashes like a99 said, but nothing else, so it looks as if starter has had it :-/.
What do you guys think.
Cheers Bob

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Andycan on Feb 26^th, 2015, 12:20pm

sounds like the starter then so you can either replace it or change the brushes and clean it out.

Title: Re: 2.3 won't start
Post by Bobbit on Feb 27^th, 2015, 5:42pm

Hi guys,
Fitted new starter motor, car now running perfect.
thanks for all the help guys
Cheers Bob