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(Message started by: november_man on Feb 17^th, 2015, 11:51am)

Title: Dashboard Control Light
Post by november_man on Feb 17^th, 2015, 11:51am

hello chaps, been very quiet on the motoring front, the car behaving itself, until now. time to lubricate the brain cells. the little red LED appears to have a mind of its own illuminating itself willy nilly even when the alarm is off. could it be the sign of a failing battery (which is now conveniently out of warranty !), the alternator chucking the volts out OK. or is it more sinister ? anyone had a similar experience ? thanks in anticipation

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by Simmo on Feb 17^th, 2015, 1:41pm

Have a read of This page (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/pats.htm). The light as you say is related to the PATS (Passive Anti Theft System) and will flash a code to indicate what the issue might be. :)

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by november_man on Feb 18^th, 2015, 10:57am

thanks, investigation in progress

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by november_man on Mar 8^th, 2016, 3:01pm

the problem eventually sorted itself out on its own. one year on the old battery has given up the ghost and after fitting a new battery this weekend the old red led is glowing again, permanently. engine starts and car drives ok. any thoughts of wisdom ? thank you.

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by Nunnspoet on Mar 12^th, 2016, 7:41am

"red led is glowing again, permanently".

I had this happen to me and for a few days I was puzzled. Then I went around my Scorp, opening and shutting everything that opens and closes and checked that the little door plungers operated freely, I think I gave them a squirt of WD 40- also around the bonnet locking catch and the plunger that sits there. Then I closed everything and locked the car - the Pats light worked just fine and no further problems. By the way she had been standing on the drive without any attention being paid to her for some weeks.

Good luck

Mike :)

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by Simmo on Mar 12^th, 2016, 10:56am

If you read This page (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/pats.htm) you will see that the Pats light is also connected to the alarm system. Thus as Mike says making sure that all the components of the alarm system are working may well have a bearing on your issue. The bonnet plunger in the slam panel is a common source of alarm problems and thus may well have been sorted by the WD40. :)

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by november_man on Mar 13^th, 2016, 7:41pm

yes, I'd gone through the PATS scenario and the alarm setup is working OK. will check out the plungers et al, thank you.

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by Nunnspoet on Mar 14^th, 2016, 8:29am

I've had another thought - shush, me missus will start to worry. ::)

My Scorpios are Estates and on one off them the plunger that opens the Tailgate has a tendency to stick in the plunged position or only return half way, the reason being that the black surround is cracked and the plunger catches on it.

just a thought

Mike :)

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by Simmo on Mar 14^th, 2016, 8:43am

Mike if your problem is only on the car with the dodgy boot opener then I suspect you may have solved your own problem!. Please let us know. ;)

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by Nunnspoet on Mar 14^th, 2016, 1:17pm

Yup, problem solved.

Mike :)

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by Simmo on Mar 14^th, 2016, 2:41pm

Thank you Mike. Good to know you are sorted and yet another snippet for future reference. :)

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by november_man on Mar 21^st, 2016, 11:34am

ongoing. all likely culprits checked out including fuel cut off. unplugged and removed central control module. no remote central locking, internal lights etc. but dash LED still lit. OK. drawing power from somewhere. replaced CCM, back to square one. wiring diagram indicates LED ( Anti-theft ON indicator ) utilises fuse 17 in box. pulled this. LED unlit, and car starts. climate control panel down and other things. unfortunately when ignition turned on heater blower comes on ! how does that work ? still scratching head.

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by Snoopy on Mar 23^rd, 2016, 10:32am

Check the ashtray is NOT providing the live feed. They have been know to short out causing some dashboard problems and is often overlooked.

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by Tompion on Mar 26^th, 2016, 5:41pm

on 03/21/16 at 11:34:03, november_man wrote:

fuse 17 in box. pulled this. LED unlit, and car starts. climate control panel down and other things. unfortunately when ignition turned on heater blower comes on ! how does that work ? still scratching head.

The blower on with F17 removed appears to be normal.
A note I've written in my handbook says with fuse 17 removed:
Heater blower stays on
No interior lights
No clock
Instruments reset
No warning for in gear

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by november_man on Apr 1^st, 2016, 12:24pm

been in limbo land with BT line down. ashtray / cigar lighter checked, problem ongoing

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by november_man on Apr 12^th, 2016, 3:20pm

as a matter of interest, does anybody know the whereabouts of the alarm RF antenna ? is it inside the CCM module or is it one of the wires on one of the plugs ?

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by november_man on Apr 22^nd, 2016, 2:21pm

everything that is plugged has been unplugged and re- plugged. dash removed and instrument binnacle connections re-soldered ( o/drive and airbag ), pins suffering from dry joint / cracking. everything now working ok, except that the check and reset of climate control is u/s. pressing the recirculated air and a/c buttons does not do what it says on the tin. anybody else had the problem ? thanks

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by Glyn on Apr 22^nd, 2016, 2:35pm

On mine I have to turn both control knobs fully anticlockwise , then press and hold in the a/c and recirc buttons until the passenger side flashes OO. I never get to scroll down the fault codes. Turn knobs to original positions and restart the engine pressing in a/c button if necessary.
If no go could be the multi connector behind the a/c panel has not seated properly.
Hope this helps

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by november_man on Apr 22^nd, 2016, 6:55pm

sad to report multi connector seated ok.

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by november_man on May 12^th, 2016, 5:11pm

give up. everything is now working ok. one day u/s , following day cured. annoying when the cause is unknown.

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by Octavian_P on Jun 14^th, 2016, 12:54pm

Hello everyone, some of you may still remember me from a long long time ago. I still have both of my Scorpios and in running condition (until now), but i had a problem with my 2.3 recently which I'm going to investigate. Because the problem is PATS's related I though of writing it here instead of opening another thread.

Problem:
1) Car engine stopped while driving.
2) PATS led is OFF.
3) Engine (starter) is disabled.

Other known facts before this:
1) Battery will drain in a few days (check the glove box light and took bulb off - still draining).
2) Power saver relay is very hot (probably works permanent)

What should I start checking:
- All the fuses (especially the one related with cigarette power)
- Door / hood / bonnet switches.
- next ???

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by Octavian_P on Jun 16^th, 2016, 6:04am

The PCM fuse was blown (20A) F37. Now it starts and runs again, but the PATS led is still dead...

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by pipino on Apr 19^th, 2018, 12:49am

total blackout on my dashboard back light when driving at night pls how do I change the bulbs and my cruise control works well but the green light indicator on dashboard is not coming on pls hoe do I go about this

Title: Re: Dashboard Control Light
Post by Tompion on Apr 21^st, 2018, 7:08pm

Details here:
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/fasciabulbs.htm

Cruise light is a soldered in LED, problem may be faulty solder joint at the connector - same as faulty airbag light here:
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=admin;action=display;num=1398512782