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(Message started by: teppo on Aug 27^th, 2016, 6:42pm)

Title: faulty link between PATS module and eec v
Post by teppo on Aug 27^th, 2016, 6:42pm

any ideas? I have changed engine and all the technics to totally different vehicle. Steering column included. Engine does not start. I think everything is as it was..

Title: Re: faulty link between PATS module and eec v
Post by teppo on Aug 28^th, 2016, 7:43am

..not connected: EGR, EVAP, ABS, post-cat HO2S, yellow wires (air bags), cabin heater, power steering

Title: Re: faulty link between PATS module and eec v
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Aug 28^th, 2016, 10:31am

So you have taken an engine out of a Scorpio and fitted it into another vehicle ?

What engine do you have and what vehicle have you fitted it into ?

Title: Re: faulty link between PATS module and eec v
Post by teppo on Aug 28^th, 2016, 7:53pm

2.0 16V to 1952 Prefect

Title: Re: faulty link between PATS module and eec v
Post by Tompion on Aug 29^th, 2016, 3:35pm

You need to give more detail, does it turnover & not start. What does the dash light do & when - does it flash a code. Does the fuel pump run for a few seconds when you first turn the ignition on. Have you checked with a DTC reader for codes.

Title: Re: faulty link between PATS module and eec v
Post by amigafan2003 on Aug 29^th, 2016, 4:03pm

Just dump the EECV and run it on Megasquirt

Title: Re: faulty link between PATS module and eec v
Post by teppo on Aug 30^th, 2016, 8:25pm

yes engine turnsover, but not start. PATS led flash code mentioned in header. Fuel pump runs sometimes and sometimes not, there might be problem in connector, I'll check that. But does it couse the fault code? I did not succeeded read the obd-code yet.. Megasquirt: not yet

Title: Re: faulty link between PATS module and eec v
Post by GrahamT on Aug 31^st, 2016, 5:16am

Fuel cut off switch???

Title: Re: faulty link between PATS module and eec v
Post by Tompion on Aug 31^st, 2016, 9:35am

on 08/30/16 at 20:25:54, teppo wrote:

PATS led flash code mentioned in header.

It would have been more helpful to those trying to help if you'd said you had a flashing 1:6 code (Faulty link between PATS module and EECV).

Until you find the problem between PATS & the EECV & the light behaves as it should nothing else matters. Check the wiring carefully, have you cut & rejoined any wires. Make sure any earths are connected & good. I don't know the cable run between the two, if it's sheathed open the loom & check the condition of the wires.

Title: Re: faulty link between PATS module and eec v
Post by teppo on Aug 31^st, 2016, 8:45pm

You are right mr. Tompion. I have to check everything. Just asking if someone has got same kind fault code..

Title: Re: faulty link between PATS module and eec v
Post by Tompion on Aug 31^st, 2016, 11:49pm

PATS problems appear to be quite rare on a Scorpio so not much experience in dealing with it. When there have been problems it’s mainly with people like yourself putting an engine into another car.
The wiring diagrams as far as I can see give no details of the connections, presumably for security reasons. Does yours have a separate PATS module or is it built into the EECV. Have you transferred the fuse boxes as well.

Title: Re: faulty link between PATS module and eec v
Post by teppo on Sep 7^th, 2016, 9:43am

yes the fuse boxes are transferred as well. Is it PATS module which is attached to the EECV (PCM) and has three connectors? One of those connectors is empty. I think it was also. There is also smaller "PATS SCP control module" which has one connector.
It would help to have the component location chart (and views) referred in wiring diagrams.
There was motor wiring insulators cracked near big black connector (C110). I put a new isulation socks there.

Title: Re: faulty link between PATS module and eec v
Post by Matt on Sep 15^th, 2016, 1:45am

Was the scorpio auto or manual transmission?

Have you swapped the black pats module over to the prefect?

Title: Re: faulty link between PATS module and eec v
Post by teppo on Sep 15^th, 2016, 7:14pm

manual transmission. Yes black pats module is moved to Prefect.

Title: Re: faulty link between PATS module and eec v
Post by teppo on Jan 4^th, 2017, 3:40pm

problem solved. The fuel pump relay was faulty. It supplies voltage to eecv as well.