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(Message started by: ultima4 on Sep 11^th, 2016, 7:59pm)

Title: air compressor siezed
Post by ultima4 on Sep 11^th, 2016, 7:59pm

my air con has packed up definley.question can I fit a normal drive belt and do away with the compressor drive all together if you get my drift engine is 2.3 ultima thanks Geoff.

Title: Re: air compressor siezed
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Sep 11^th, 2016, 8:38pm

This happened on my 2.3 Ultima - the A/C is on by default but if you remove 1 of the small blue relays from the passenger side fusebox it disengages the clutch and the pulley will just turn without trying to turn the compressor.
Can't remember which relay but there are only a couple to choose from.

Title: Re: air compressor siezed
Post by Simmo on Sep 12^th, 2016, 8:09am

Geoff/Mike. This page. Click to enlarge (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/images/battery_fusebox.gif) may help. :)

As might This page (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/airconelectrical.htm)

Title: Re: air compressor siezed
Post by ultima4 on Sep 12^th, 2016, 9:07am

hi guys yes I did remove the relay blue one r24 after the compressor nearly caught fire no kidding there was smoke and it was screaming .I think the bearing in the compressor its self is broken removing the relay did stop the clutch from running but I think the heat from when it got really hot done the bearing in the body its self....I don't want to replace the unit due to cost . that's why I want see if I can fit a belt from a car which doe not have air con thanks for your fast reply

Title: Re: air compressor siezed
Post by a900one on Sep 12^th, 2016, 10:43am

I put a non a/c belt on my Granada scorpio after the a/c compressor seized up. Did your model/engine size come without aircon, if yes, should be able to get one easy. If not, cut the old belt and put around the pulleys, missing out aircon pulley, with the tensioner about half way, if you follow what I mean. This will give you some idea of length.

Title: Re: air compressor siezed
Post by Simmo on Sep 12^th, 2016, 12:32pm

This might help (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/drivebelt.htm) details of belts etc.

Title: Re: air compressor siezed
Post by Tompion on Sep 12^th, 2016, 1:16pm

It looks on mine as though you can just about bypass the aircon with a shorter belt & leave the aircon in place.

There are some details here but it looks as though pulley sizes may vary so you may have to wedge the tensioner & measure what length you need:
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=admin;action=display;num=1313587757

Title: Re: air compressor siezed
Post by ultima4 on Sep 12^th, 2016, 8:21pm

thanks to all you guys for so much imfomation I will look into it over the coming days cheers geoff

Title: Re: air compressor siezed
Post by Jonnycab on Sep 14^th, 2016, 6:46am

The pump isn't that difficult to replace (I did a couple in my time), you just have to make sure you get a goodun (second hand) & use new 'O' rings (they are green) on the in & out pipes, as old ones, although they look okay, believe me, they won't make a good seal.

Hope this helps :)

Title: Re: air compressor siezed
Post by Simmo on Sep 14^th, 2016, 7:17am

Good to see you 'lurking' Jonny. Regards to the good lady. Is that lad doing oil changes yet?! ;D

Title: Re: air compressor siezed
Post by gost on Sep 20^th, 2016, 6:26pm

re seized air con pump , when it happen to me I fitted a shorter belt that byepassed the pump all together, I think it was a transit non a/c belt

Title: Re: air compressor siezed
Post by ultima4 on Oct 5^th, 2016, 8:49pm

hi gost you don't by chance no the belt part number thanks for your help geoff

Title: Re: air compressor siezed
Post by gost on Oct 29^th, 2016, 5:21pm

sorry I don't know was a long time ago but it was a standard transit van non a/c model belt

Title: Re: air compressor siezed
Post by ultima4 on Feb 12^th, 2017, 1:37pm

hi folks update my air compressor has now been removed and remanufacted one fitted with new belt I'm am so pleased no more horrible noises .cost £100 for unit plus £24 for belt plus £70 labour plus vat of course.i can now use the car more now thank god thanks for all your help and advice guys best wishes Geoff :D :D

Title: Re: air compressor siezed
Post by Simmo on Feb 12^th, 2017, 3:30pm

Good to know you are sorted Geoff. Enjoy! ;D

Title: Re: air compressor siezed
Post by Glyn on Feb 13^th, 2017, 1:26am

It may be of interest to some on here to know where you got the reconditioned unit.

Title: Re: air compressor siezed
Post by ultima4 on Feb 13^th, 2017, 1:06pm

hi out of interest I bought this from g.l automotive in Warwickshire ebay no 141743816105.

Title: Re: air compressor siezed
Post by Simmo on Feb 13^th, 2017, 3:29pm

on 02/13/17 at 13:06:16, ultima4 wrote:

hi out of interest I bought this from g.l automotive in Warwickshire ebay no 141743816105.

The particular listing has ended but is still displayed and they have other similar items for a range of vehicles.
Firms details:- GL Autos
Graham Leech
Unit 5 Wharf Street
Warwick
Warwickshire
CV345LB
United Kingdom Tel.No. 01926 411348