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(Message started by: marks730 on Oct 14^th, 2004, 8:59pm)

Title: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by marks730 on Oct 14^th, 2004, 8:59pm

HI DOES ANYONE KNOW THAT IN THE EARLY GRANADAS SOME HAD ELECTRIC REAR SEATS.
THE MOTORS WILL FIT IN THE SCORPIOS.
I HAVE DONE IT IN MINE .
JON.

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by JohnJ on Oct 14^th, 2004, 9:34pm

How did you manage that, my rear seat is hinged at the front so that it can be swung forward when you put the back of the seats down for more room. every sunday in my case for da flowers.

I do remember my cousins 86 Granada Scorpio and it had electic back seat but it slid the base forward. I dont understand how that would work in the new Scorpios.

But I may be wrong, I bet I am wrong. see all the confidance I have.. ;D

JJ

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by marks730 on Oct 14^th, 2004, 9:41pm

HI ITS THE PIN THAT THE SEATS LOCK ON TO THAT MOVES BACKWARD AND FOWARD ON A WORM AND A WHEEL.
AND THE BUTTONS GO AT EACH SIDE OF THE SEAT.
JON.

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by Badboytunes on Oct 14^th, 2004, 11:20pm

My 1992 scorp granada had rear electric and hheated seats. the seat back reclined but the base never moved.

Cheers Nick

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by Paul B on Oct 15^th, 2004, 6:43am

Yes, likewise on my old Granada.
That feature can be carried over to the Scorpio as a modification though. Baz is one member who has done this successfully... on his 'old' red one.

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by craig on Oct 15^th, 2004, 6:52am

when baz installed his (i was talking to him at derby),said the installation is quite an easy one,thought about doing it myself because thats the one thing the kids really do miss,but was not too sure about cutting the plastic about to put the switches in,also is the wiring straight forward ?

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by Paul B on Oct 15^th, 2004, 7:22am

If you can lift the plastic wotsits from the Granada, they will fit straight in. Or... the Scorpio ones are easy enough to modify as they are only old Granada parts anyway and are marked on the underside where they should be cut.
I looked into doing it as well, but decided it was too much hassle due to the wiring. I was also told "Yes the wiring is there - it just plugs in" but it doesn't. Well, not on my car anyway.
I can only suggest that some Scorpios wiring looms are different in this respect. A bit like they differ when it comes to puddle lights! :-/

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by marks730 on Oct 15^th, 2004, 7:24am

yes it very easy if you find an old granny with the seats
the bit with the switch clips ot (with 2 scews)and will fit in the scorpio if you take out the small loom from each side one wire to ground the other one i took to the rear window loom(under the rear kick plate on each side)
you need to find the main live wire,this can also be controled by the switch on the centre consol te cut off the rear windows.
hope thats of some help to you
the only prpb is finding a granny with electric rear seats
the motors have been discontinued by ford in 1994.
jon.

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by marks730 on Oct 15^th, 2004, 7:27am

i have a complete kit to do this if anyone wants it!!!
jon.

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by craig on Oct 15^th, 2004, 9:08am

how much you looking for john,i for one would be interested in it,and if as you say it is quite easy to do,well thats just about in my department..

regards

craig..

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by Badboytunes on Oct 17^th, 2004, 9:56pm

on 10/15/04 at 07:22:32, Paul B wrote:

If you can lift the plastic wotsits from the Granada, they will fit straight in. :-/

Very technical of you Paul........... ;)

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by Paul B on Oct 17^th, 2004, 10:00pm

:)
You know me mate. I have a fine command of the queen's English... at times. ;)

Don't talk proper like wot you do though

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by craig on Oct 18^th, 2004, 8:23am

paul...
if your interested you can have the kit,the guy want £90.00 for it... :o :o :o :o

craig...

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by Paul B on Oct 18^th, 2004, 8:59pm

90 golden nuggets? :o
Erm.... nah! I'll pass on it.

I looked at doing it when I had my old Granada and the Scorpio side by side, but gave up in the end. Decided it wasn't really worth it for me.
Thing is, at the moment, there's no kids and I rarely have back seat passengers anyway. Hardly ever did with the Granada either.
Only ever used the back seat 2or3 times myself. ;) ;D

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by Badboytunes on Oct 18^th, 2004, 11:03pm

on 10/18/04 at 20:59:54, Paul B wrote:

90 golden nuggets? :o
Erm.... nah! I'll pass on it.

.thing is, at the moment, there's no kids and I rarely have back seat passengers anyway. Hardly ever did with the Granada either.
Only ever used the back seat 2or3 times myself. ;) ;D

well you are getting married next year ;) so maybe get it done early b4 the rug rats arrive ;D ;D

do u agree craig?

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by Baz on Oct 19^th, 2004, 12:38am

Yes an absolute doddle to fit. The correct place to get the power from is from the supplies to the electric front seats (If you have them of course!). I took all of the wiring out of a granny and this is where the wiring was soldered into this is also backed up by the wiring diagrams for the granada as well.

Please remember if you are playing with the wiring to the front seats to disconnect the battery if, like mine your car has side airbags!!

Some photos

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Baz

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by craig on Oct 19^th, 2004, 7:14am

;D ;D ;D totally there nick....
this time next year..pipe and slippers mate ;D ;D

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by Paul B on Oct 19^th, 2004, 7:21am

Oh noooooooooo! You mean I'm turning into me dad? :o

LOL

You're right, I could get it done before we hear the patter of tiny feet I suppose.

But then again, they could just sit there like good children and not play around with anything (can they actually do that?) And it would be 2 extra switches to pack up and go wrong. :-/

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by craig on Oct 19^th, 2004, 3:28pm

;D ;D can they sit there and not play with anything ;D ;D

bet you cant do that now paul at your age... ;) ;) ;)

craig..

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by Badboytunes on Oct 21^st, 2004, 9:27pm

on 10/19/04 at 07:21:25, Paul B wrote:

But then again, they could just sit there like good children and not play around with anything (can they actually do that?) . :-/

LOL My dear Paul, you aint got a clue av ya son!!!!! You will be telling us next that they wont make a mess in the car!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by Paul B on Oct 21^st, 2004, 11:09pm

on 10/21/04 at 21:27:24, Badboytunes wrote:

LOL My dear Paul, you aint got a clue av ya son!!!!! You will be telling us next that they wont make a mess in the car!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nope. Not at all. :-[
Took my mates 2 little'uns out for the day a while back (went to the zoo) and it was a nightmare!
I spent the journey worrying about whether the kiddie seats were going to mark my leather ;D

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by Vulcan on Oct 22^nd, 2004, 12:32am

on 10/21/04 at 23:09:06, Paul B wrote:

Nah kiddie seats don't worry the leather too much...it's the chewy sweets that they stick to it that makes a bit of a mess.....and the wrappers down the side.. and maybe the chewing gum stuck... well all over. Macdonut's vanilla milk shake tends to follow the seat belts right down to the mountings and the spread out.. McD's fries are also really good at finding a good place to hide too... ohh I could go on....

:-[

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by Paul B on Oct 22^nd, 2004, 7:08am

Well, I'll just keep doing what I did before then - put a blanket across the back seat first before the kiddie seats and the sticky sweets get in there. ;)

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by JohnJ on Oct 22^nd, 2004, 7:43pm

I notice Baz you had a rear centre headrest...I DONT HAVE THAT :-[.

Why?

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by Paul B on Oct 22^nd, 2004, 8:54pm

Spring 98 onwards job wasn't it?

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by Dave Boulton on Oct 23^rd, 2004, 6:42am

Didn't he get it on eBay?!

Dave (well, someone had to do it...)

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by Baz on Oct 27^th, 2004, 8:59pm

Yes I think it was one of the few bits to be left on the facelift models. I have a spare set of seat backs and they don't have the centre headrest but are in v. good condition so I will hang onto them

baz

Title: Re: REAR ELECTRIC SEATS
Post by simonmd on Nov 5^th, 2004, 2:07am

Just for the record, the rear seats where switched off when you switched the rear windows off on the Mk3. So the rear window live is probably a good place to wire them in as well.

BTW, I know they where never originaly fitted to the estate but has anyone ever done this?