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(Message started by: catalina on Oct 15^th, 2008, 11:35am)

Title: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by catalina on Oct 15^th, 2008, 11:35am

Urgently need a by pass hose for my Cosworth.
Part No. is 7334646 (959F-18686-AA).
Its about25cm long. 32mm dia one end. 22mm other end. Very contorted shape in between.

Any ideas where I can get a new one, preferably, or else a good used one.
I am in Shropshire.

Thanks

John

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Oct 15^th, 2008, 12:22pm

Best bet is either your local Ford main dealer or these guys : http://www.fordpartsuk.com/

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by Neil W on Oct 15^th, 2008, 5:14pm

John,

Quickco in Chester can also get one for you; order by phone & pick up next day. About £15.

They are based at Bretton, adjacent to the Broughton Airbus wings factory; tel 01244 660457

Neil W.

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by catalina on Oct 15^th, 2008, 10:35pm

Thanks guys. Both Ford and Fordpartsuk seem unable to locate this item. I will try Quickco tomorrow and let you know how I get on.

Its getting tougher to find new parts for the Cosworth engine. I wonder how much longer I can fight to keep my otherwise great car on the road???

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by catalina on Oct 21^st, 2008, 11:32am

Still no luck finding this item. A Ford agent in SWitzerland has one but he won't sell it because he will keep it for his own customers.

I have a grudging admiration for his loyalty to his customers!!

John

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by joe-satch on Oct 21^st, 2008, 12:47pm

sorry to hear of your plight..i thought a customer was a customer no matter where they come from,some people have strange selling attitudes.good luck in your quest. :).

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by Baz on Oct 27^th, 2008, 12:25am

John,

Is this the hose that comes off the top of the thermostat and up through the cylinder head? If so, I think I may have a good second hand one that I was going to use to repair my car which has a big hole in the same hose!

Seeing as I am now intending to break the thing; the hose is somewhat spare!

PM me and let me know

Baz

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by catalina on Oct 27^th, 2008, 3:57pm

Baz

I didn't see the hose being removed but I know that it necessitated removal of the exhaust manifold on the near side As you say, it comes off the top of the thermostat I have the hose with me so I'll describe it as best as I can.
It is about 25cm long. 22 mm dia one end 32 mm other end. The 22mm section is almost straight over about 17cm. then it cants to the right and then backwards at about 45 degrees. Its dia gradually increases from 22mm to 32mm over these two bends.

Does this sound like the one you have? My tel No. is 01743 790403. Please would you call me if you think we can do a deal.

Cheers

John

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by catalina on Oct 31^st, 2008, 11:05pm

Baz

Is there any news about the hose you have, please. I've run out of ideas as to where I might find this item.

I am completely disillusioned by Ford's total inability to do anything to help me in this matter.

Cheers

John

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by scorpio_man on Nov 1^st, 2008, 9:13am

hi there

it's hose number 12 in this diagram...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/scorpio_man/scorpio%20bits/thermostats.jpg

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by gozz on Nov 1^st, 2008, 10:23am

That's the one,but he wont need the exhaust manifold off,just the inlet cluster.
GOZZ

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by Snoopy on Nov 1^st, 2008, 10:30am

Surely some soft silicone heater hose would suffice for that if it hasn't got any 90 bends in it otherwise make one up using silicone and 1/2 copper fittings or even a copper pipe on with rubber ends to connect to .

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by bizzay1 on Nov 1^st, 2008, 12:16pm

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Problems;action=display;num=1224526415

have you had any thoughts since I made the suggestion about using the rover thermostat in the above thread ??

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by Neil W on Nov 1^st, 2008, 2:24pm

Because of the restricted space at each end of the by-pass hose, I doubt very much whether it is possible to modify, or make up, a suitable hose using copper pipe and/or other bits and pieces. What is needed, really, is the correct hose profile, which can then be fitted after removing the inlet manifold and aircon compressor.

The diagram posted by Scorpio-man shows the hose alright, but unfortunately it does not show the wider diameter neck that fits over the thermostat or the very small space under the front of the left hand cylinder head that the longer part of the hose has to squeeze through!

My only suggestions are a) to try and source from a scrappy - although the hose may not be in good condition, or b) have a hose made up by the likes of Samco at http://www.samcosport.com/uk/index.asp - although this might be a bit expensive.

Hope this helps,

Neil W.

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by catalina on Nov 1^st, 2008, 2:28pm

Thanks guys for your help. Answers to your questions are as follows:

To Scorpio man - Yes, it is the pipe No. 12 as you stated. Are you there Baz? Is this the pipe ypu have?

To Gozz - You are right, I'm sure. It is the inlet cluster- not the exhaust manifold which has been taken off. (The car broke down outside the Ford dealership and I left it to them to solve. So I am unaware of the exact work which was necessary to remove the burst pipe).

To Snoopy - I have been reluctant to go down the route of making up a pipe as you suggest since I am not sure how much clearance there is around other fitting: e.g. compressor, inlet cluster, etc. However I will have to use this route if Baz cannot help. I will have to depend upon a little understanding from Ford in these circumstances however.

To Bizzay - With the car at the Ford garage my options are limited as to how many modifications I can introduce. If I decide to have the car brought home (at a cost of £70) I will be in a better position to assess the best way forward. Fot the time being, however, I'm looking for a solution where Ford do the re-assembly work. (This time of year I don't fancy lying under the car in the driveway!!)

THanks again to everyone. Hope to get some good news from you Baz.

John

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by Baz on Nov 11^th, 2008, 7:11pm

OK,

I finally found the bag with all the hoses in it.... I had put it away safely in the boot of my spares Corsair and then forgot!

I will take a few pictures in a while and see if it is the same hose John

Regards

Baz

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by catalina on Nov 11^th, 2008, 8:52pm

Thanks Baz. Eargerly awaiting the pics. I haven't mastered the digital camera bit yet, so I'll try to describe it in words:

Approx. 25 cm long. Starts at 22 mm dia. and is almost straight for first 17 cm. Then cants right, then cants back at about 45 degrees, finally terminating at 32mm dia.

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by Baz on Nov 16^th, 2008, 11:16pm

I guess this is the one you are after then John?

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/Bazunitec/DSCF0129.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/Bazunitec/DSCF0130.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/Bazunitec/DSCF0131.jpg

One of the 3 hoses off the thermostat
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/Bazunitec/DSCF0128.jpg

Baz

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by catalina on Nov 16^th, 2008, 11:31pm

Yes. Yes. Yes. Am sending you a pm with address etc. What are you going to charge me please?

Cheers

John

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by Neil W on Nov 17^th, 2008, 12:19pm

John,

In the third picture above there is a small right angled hose shown, which goes between the bottom of the thermostat to the water pump housing. This one is also likely to fail so I would ask Baz for this one as well and then you have a spare if the one on your Cossie is actually OK when you do the job.

Cheers,

Neil W.

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by catalina on Nov 17^th, 2008, 12:53pm

Thanks. I've taken your advice and asked Baz to include it.

John

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by Baz on Nov 17^th, 2008, 11:00pm

But Baz being the generous old b****r he is has included all three!!

;D ;D

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by gozz on Nov 17^th, 2008, 11:18pm

Baz.
Sods law says you'll need number three tomorrow ::)
GOZZ.

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by Baz on Nov 18^th, 2008, 1:00am

on 11/17/08 at 23:18:48, gozz wrote:

Baz.
Sods law says you'll need number three tomorrow ::)
GOZZ.

Not unless it fits the S Class Gozz!! }{

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by gozz on Nov 18^th, 2008, 8:49am

Baz.
Forgot you had defected ! what about that little back end on the left ? ;)
GOZZ.

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by catalina on Nov 18^th, 2008, 10:33am

Very interesting, but please don't upset my mate Baz- at least not until I've got my lovely hoses and have settled my account with him :o

John

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by gozz on Nov 18^th, 2008, 4:49pm

Rightyho ! :-X
GOZZ.

Title: Re: By pass Hose to thermostat on a Cosworth
Post by Baz on Nov 18^th, 2008, 10:11pm

on 11/18/08 at 08:49:56, gozz wrote:

Baz.
Forgot you had defected ! what about that little back end on the left ? ;)
GOZZ.

That little back end is still sat on my drive... along with the rest of the car!