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(Message started by: wojtekor on Apr 15^th, 2009, 3:03pm)

Title: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by wojtekor on Apr 15^th, 2009, 3:03pm

Hi guys!

I wrote about my transmission fluid leak before [ http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Problems;action=display;num=1239324621;start=0#14 ]and just came back from the garage. it's a pretty bad situation. The whole connection between the cooler for the transmission fluid and the radiator needs changing.

I mean there a two pipes that need changing both attached to the transmission fluid cooler and then to the radiator. First one is an ordinary rubber pipe that can be supplied by Ford for 36£, which is not bad. The second one is metal [was metal as it's totally corroded] , connected to the rubber one and goes to the radiator.
The second one [metal] is not available from Ford and in that case the garage can do nothing.

Has anyone got one spare and can send it to me asap? Please help me guys, I can not be defeated by a small piece of metal... I miss my car...

Title: Re: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by Snoopy on Apr 15^th, 2009, 3:38pm

The pipes oyu are talking about can be replaced either with braided Brake piping or just ordinary black fuel tubing and held in place by jubilee clips. You just need to cut back to a good bit of pipe. I know of several members who have done the same job this way . There is NOT a lot of pressure in the system when its running.

The pipes are I understand still available from FMD and do not cost lots of money . Do a search on the forum for the same subjects and I am sure you will find the answer . If fact I remember someone posted a few weeks ago about the very same fault .
HERE IS ONE OF THE OLD POSTS (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Advice;action=display;num=1209380454;start=5#5)

If oyu use a small pipe cutter to cut the pipes it makes a very neat job of it and rubber does NOT rust so should be good for a few years more. Take care with the oil cooler rad itself as they tend to get quite fragile ..

Title: Re: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by wojtekor on Apr 15^th, 2009, 3:40pm

cheers Snoopy, I'll look around and call my garage in a minute ;)

Title: Re: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by Snoopy on Apr 15^th, 2009, 3:45pm

I have amended my post for you ;)

Title: Re: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by wojtekor on Apr 15^th, 2009, 4:26pm

i love you Snoopy! :) thanks for help. I've already been to the garage, showed them your post and they said that as long as i'm aware that this is not what FMD would recommend and it will probably last 3-4 years then they will do it ;)

Anyway should get my lovely car by Monday as FMD probably won't send them the parts before Friday... but never mind that, my lovely 'little' baby will be back in shape soon ;)

Title: Re: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by bizzay1 on Apr 15^th, 2009, 4:31pm

If my memory serves me, when I did mine the short one would have cost about £25 from fmd, so compared to about a fiver for the pipe and a couple of clips it is a saving, also if you do try to change the pipe you may have trouble getting it out of the rad, they tend to bring half the rad with the thread :'( that obviously adds more cost

Title: Re: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by wojtekor on Apr 15^th, 2009, 4:48pm

thank god for Snoopy, this forum and the nice man named Mark who'll fix my baby ;)

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also if you do try to change the pipe you may have trouble getting it out of the rad, they tend to bring half the rad with the thread

we wouldn't like that to happen... ;)

Title: Re: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by joe-satch on Apr 15^th, 2009, 7:03pm

i had to cut out the rotten pipe to the cooler on our daughters ultima...and replace it with black rubber hose...i did this last july..and its still ok..so have no fear it will be fine.:).

Title: Re: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by wojtekor on Apr 15^th, 2009, 7:18pm

joe-satch i hope so ;) we will see in a few days ;)

Title: Re: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by wojtekor on Apr 15^th, 2009, 9:09pm

there's a surprise, just got an email from Trevor from Ford Parts UK.com saying that they have all those pipes brand new ;) still waiting for a quote but may consider getting the original part.

Title: Re: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by Snoopy on Apr 16^th, 2009, 7:42am

If you do do what I did and treat them with some sort of anti rust ... I covered mine in grease and wiped them clean every time I changed the oil , which I did every 3k and they stayed as good as new .

Title: Re: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by joe-satch on Apr 16^th, 2009, 9:49am

wojtekor my friend...cutting the rotten pipe out and replacing with good rubber pipe has been done by a few members..myself included for our daughters ultima...rest asured..you will be fine mate..i dont think anyone on this site would give anyone a bum-steer,these chaps know what there talking about. :) :)...regards den.

Title: Re: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by Highlander on Apr 16^th, 2009, 9:59am

I've also seen a few of them use the rubber hose to just bypass a broken oil cooler completely and they seem to run fine, dont know how much it would affect them in the long term but i've had a 24v running like this for 3 years plus, no problems so far.

Title: Re: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by joe-satch on Apr 16^th, 2009, 3:32pm

excellent... :).

Title: Re: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by wojtekor on Apr 16^th, 2009, 4:19pm

OK overall bill for the work + parts will be 140£ using bran new original Ford parts and no rubber bypasses etc.
so it's not so bad. Will hopefully have my car back on Monday if the parts are there on time...

Title: Re: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by Highlander on Apr 16^th, 2009, 4:34pm

You could have bought another Scorpio for that ;)

Title: Re: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by wojtekor on Apr 16^th, 2009, 4:43pm

Oh Highlander come on... I probably could buy another one but what for? :) I need only one, I love and treat like a member of our family and I need it running. ;)

You may say that it wasn't worth it but i don't agree. I believe that cars if it's only possible should be fixed properly using original parts and let's be honest, there's not a one person it the world that ever got his money invested over the years back when it came to selling the car etc.
And i'm not planning to sell my Scorp ever! :) I'll keep it as a second or even a third car and use a newer/new car daily.
That's the way classics are born :)

Title: Re: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by Highlander on Apr 16^th, 2009, 5:47pm

on 04/16/09 at 16:43:31, wojtekor wrote:

and let's be honest, there's not a one person it the world that ever got his money invested over the years back when it came to selling the car

I disagree with that, I have never lost money on a Scorpio yet and I've had 18 (I think) ;)

And yes thats a reasonable price for the work done and parts replaced but you could buy another one for the same price ;)

Title: Re: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by wojtekor on Apr 16^th, 2009, 8:32pm

don't even start :D remember that you buy Scorpios on ebay for 80£ as non runners then fix usually minor failures and cars are running again :)
I'm talking about normal users that have 1-2 cars on they driveway, not 18 :D

Quote:

And yes thats a reasonable price for the work done and parts replaced but you could buy another one for the same price Wink

Can't argue with that.

Can't wait till Monday to get my car back! :D

Title: Re: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by twinturbo on Apr 16^th, 2009, 9:21pm

I work on the principal that a car should do 10 miles for every pound spent.

My 24v cost 800 ( 8k miles... ) and I spent about £800 on her ( 8k miles.. ) so I had 16K to cover. I only made 9000 miles... Arghhh a loss... then sold £750 of parts.... Yay I am over 10m/£ :)

TT

Title: Re: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by wojtekor on Apr 16^th, 2009, 9:39pm

Quote:

I work on the principal that a car should do 10 miles for every pound spent.

i like it, sounds reasonable.

Title: Re: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by wojtekor on Apr 20^th, 2009, 5:21pm

Just got a call from the garage about my car and Ford screwed up the order and sent the wrong parts >:(
the garage has to send them back and in the meantime will be waiting for the right parts to come in. Long story short I won't see my car before Thursday >:(

Title: Re: Transmission fluid cooler/radiator pipe ASAP
Post by wojtekor on Apr 24^th, 2009, 4:49pm

yeah!! my baby is back on the road :) done superbly for a reasonable price :) and it's good as new!