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(Message started by: howke on Jun 9^th, 2010, 10:07am)

Title: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by howke on Jun 9^th, 2010, 10:07am

Hi all Scorpio lovers.

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/eecvlooms.htm

I need the loom from the lower right picture from the link ... it must be in good or even better in very good shape .... the one from the scorpio i bought half year ago is defective ... and the mechanic where the car is says its the best to not cut or replace the wires from the loom because they are sensor wires ... i know nothing about that so is that correct or ?!?!?

I need it very urgently !!!!

Title: Re: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by scorpio_man on Jun 9^th, 2010, 10:41am

hi there

this member was breaking a car so might have it....
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=admin3;action=display;num=1251115241

btw, it might be better to phone him so you don't get the delay in waiting for him to see your post.

hth

Title: Re: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by howke on Jun 9^th, 2010, 10:55am

thanks for the ultra quick reply

just called him and left a voice message

Title: Re: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by Highlander on Jun 9^th, 2010, 10:57am

quite a few people have rewired looms successfully

Title: Re: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by howke on Jun 9^th, 2010, 11:35am

on 06/09/10 at 10:57:43, Highlander wrote:

quite a few people have rewired looms successfully

yea mechanic sad it is possible but very very difficult ... so the used looms are best solution.

Title: Re: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by Highlander on Jun 9^th, 2010, 5:39pm

Its definitely not difficult, it just takes time ;)

Title: Re: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by howke on Jun 11^th, 2010, 11:30am

on 06/09/10 at 17:39:42, Highlander wrote:

Its definitely not difficult, it just takes time ;)

so you say the loom is not some special signal wires like mine mechanic says , that they are hard to buy or too much expensive .

i have time so i can rewire them if the wires i need can be bought at electronics store , if any got info about store please send it .

I am from Europe , Croatia so have that in mind also

Title: Re: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by Simmo on Jun 11^th, 2010, 12:09pm

Have a look at THIS site (http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onlinestore/home/homepage.php). Several members have used their products.

Title: Re: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by gozz on Jun 11^th, 2010, 12:25pm

howke.
Seldom is there a problem with the wires unless they have been on fire,all you need to do is insulate them,which I have done several times without problems,as Highlander says it IS very time consuming but very satisfying when finished.
GOZZ.

Title: Re: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by Mike H on Jun 11^th, 2010, 8:33pm

on 06/11/10 at 12:09:36, Simmo wrote:

Have a look at THIS site (http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onlinestore/home/homepage.php). Several members have used their products.

Wow that's useful.

Title: Re: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by howke on Jun 14^th, 2010, 7:34am

on 06/11/10 at 12:25:41, gozz wrote:

Ok will try that , any special insulate tape should i use ? ... the transmission works normally for few minutes but when the car heatens up it transmission wont change gears . I hope its not worse then just insulation of the loom

Title: Re: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by gozz on Jun 14^th, 2010, 8:35am

Use proper electricians tape from an electrical factor,do not consider the sub standard 'motorists' stuff ,it's about 13mm wide and black.Whether or not the loom is causing your shift problem is debatable.
GOZZ

Title: Re: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by howke on Jun 14^th, 2010, 1:22pm

on 06/14/10 at 08:35:35, gozz wrote:

does the tape has to be resistant to high temperature ???

can you give manufacture or where can i order one ... or the if its not a problem for u to buy it for me and i will pay you off course ... I am from Croatia and i think there is no proper electrical shop

sorry for all those questions , and thanks for the quick replys

Title: Re: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by gozz on Jun 14^th, 2010, 9:35pm

The tape is plastic,PVC in fact,it may soften when hot but hardens when cool.
I cannot believe that there is no insulating tape in Croatia !!!
GOZZ.

Title: Re: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by lesterlad aka Rodders on Jun 14^th, 2010, 10:13pm

howke;
This is the sort of thing you need, comes in many different colours > > >
Insulating Tape.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/192/pvcinsulatingtape.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/pvcinsulatingtape.jpg/)

Title: Re: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by howke on Jun 15^th, 2010, 10:17am

on 06/14/10 at 21:35:45, gozz wrote:

The tape is plastic,PVC in fact,it may soften when hot but hardens when cool.
I cannot believe that there is no insulating tape in Croatia !!!
GOZZ.

off course there is ... but you mentioned that i must use proper insulating tape

Title: Re: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by howke on Jun 15^th, 2010, 10:25am

on 06/14/10 at 22:13:57, lesterlad aka Rodders wrote:

hehehehe ok guys i know how it looks ... i can buy those tape on almost every gas station , electric store etc ... but the question is if it is not good quality and tape melts especially on summer ... temps here can reach 35°c in shade and engine heat hmmm that what worrys me , and to get down the gearbox its not a cheap work .

OK i will go to the best electric store and buy the best tape .

Progress will be on this topic .

Thanks for all your help so far :-)

Title: Re: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by Simmo on Jun 15^th, 2010, 1:26pm

Have you checked out the site I put up in reply 7 ?. They have everything you could ever need.

Title: Re: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by howke on Jun 16^th, 2010, 7:14am

on 06/15/10 at 13:26:59, Simmo wrote:

Have you checked out the site I put up in reply 7 ?. They have everything you could ever need.

yes i did ... but until my mechanic send me wiring loom i really dont know what will i need ... i will do insulation with a help of mine father ( he is electrotechincal engineer , i think thats how its called in english) and will see if some connectors needs replacement .

Title: Re: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by Simmo on Jun 16^th, 2010, 8:14am

You may have a problem with the connectors. They may LOOK the same but not be suitable. If you can retain the old connectors by joining the new wires cloe to the connectors that may be the answer.

Title: Re: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by howke on Jun 16^th, 2010, 10:12am

on 06/16/10 at 08:14:18, Simmo wrote:

You may have a problem with the connectors. They may LOOK the same but not be suitable. If you can retain the old connectors by joining the new wires cloe to the connectors that may be the answer.

that really make sense . if i am gonna insulate wires why not put new connectors .

Title: Re: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by Mike H on Jun 16^th, 2010, 8:54pm

That isn't what Simmo meant I don't think, think he meant keep the car's original connectors wherever possible. Did you know some of them have gold plated pins? Because in those cases it is vital that a good electrical connection is maintained. Gold does not tarnish, hence minimum possibility of bad connections.

Title: Re: COSWORTH 1997. WIRING LOOM NEEDED
Post by Simmo on Jun 17^th, 2010, 7:17am

Mike. You are quite right. I did check with the firm on one occasion and even sent them one of ours for comparison. They do look very similar BUT I was told they are not compatible. That is why,where possible, re-using the old connectors is necessary. If you can source new connectors which do fit then obviously that is a choice you have.