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(Message started by: Matt on Jan 12th, 2013, 6:10pm)
Title: Possible Scam estate
Post by Matt on Jan 12th, 2013, 6:10pm
looking through ebay for an estate and these 2 popped up

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1998-Ford-Scorpio-Estate-2935cc-Petrol-/170972059839?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27ceba98bf

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Scorpio-2-9-24v-auto-Ultima-1998-R-Estate-/271133068807?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3f20ca4e07

They are the same car, but being sold by different people with £1000 price difference!
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by gozz on Jan 12th, 2013, 7:31pm
Matt.
They are both dealers,so maybe neither of them own the car but are selling it 'on behalf of a customer', and are both chancers.A couple of years ago I saw a high spec Dorchester limo on ebay in Stoke for £6500,I contacted a friend who is in the funeral trade in Stoke,he said it belonged to a local funeral director,and was advertised by a local dealer.I subsequently bought it direct from the funeral man for £2500. Very nice for the dealer if someone out of touch appears on the scene eh !!
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by ultima4 on Jan 12th, 2013, 8:37pm
this car was for sale on ebay five days ago for buy it now price  of £1295 very suspect? now it on bidding for £1500 sounds dodgy. what do you think guys  ?
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by Jeff on Jan 12th, 2013, 9:42pm
Maybe the 'dealer' bought it and is trying to make a profit. On the face of it the car looks good, and I'm tempted. Pity it's so far away, and a pity I've just paid a huge bill to the taxman.

Any 'inside' info welcome if anyone knows it...
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by Andycan on Jan 12th, 2013, 11:03pm
It looks as if they are about 20 miles as the crow flies from eachother.
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by PJDavis on Jan 13th, 2013, 7:23am
Bit of a mileage discrepancy!   Just slight but I wouldn't be happy.   'Tis a nice car though, but I don't like estates so would never be tempted.
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by gozz on Jan 13th, 2013, 12:32pm
These cars are very photogenic and always look good generally,but as we all know can be very disappointing close up.
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by Jeff on Jan 13th, 2013, 7:07pm
Best car I ever had was my Scorpio estate, so bloody useful as well.
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by rich1 on Jan 13th, 2013, 7:50pm
Love the way one says “grab a future classic cheap” . I dont call 2500 cheap !!!
It does look nice tho , but to dear imho
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by Jeff on Jan 13th, 2013, 10:59pm
Not so good if you blow the pictures up.
The rear bumper doesn't fit and it would appear the car hasn't even been washed properly....so for that reason, I'm out.

Shame, these are rare.
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by rich1 on Jan 14th, 2013, 8:12am
Could have hoovered the front too !!!! Where is woodbridge?
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by rich1 on Jan 14th, 2013, 8:14am
Oh , suffolk , really gotta look before posting  ;D
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by Jeff on Jan 14th, 2013, 11:48am
Where's Suffolk?
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by lesterlad aka Rodders on Jan 14th, 2013, 1:12pm

on 01/14/13 at 11:48:18, Jeff wrote:
Where's Suffolk?

Underneath Norfolk.  ;D
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Jan 14th, 2013, 3:36pm

on 01/13/13 at 07:23:56, PJDavis wrote:
Bit of a mileage discrepancy!   Just slight but I wouldn't be happy.   'Tis a nice car though, but I don't like estates so would never be tempted.

Nowt wrong wi' estates - great for those trips to the DIY store  ;)
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by Simmo on Jan 14th, 2013, 5:34pm
To say nothing of transporting half a car from Gozz's to you!!.  ;D
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by PJDavis on Jan 14th, 2013, 6:33pm
They're just 'Station-Wagons'.  ;D  Now whether that means that they are only fit to work for the railway to deliver goods, or as some kind of carriage to be pulled by a horse I'll never know.   But to start an argument, or perhaps a bit of banter, the Saloon in my opinion is the far superior car!!!    :o   Aye the station-wagon can carry a wee bit of goods, but usually bought second-hand are all just stinking of Dugs!  (you'll never get the smell oot of the carpet)   Station-wagons are always noisier!   More, 'common' I would say   :P  

I look forward to the rebut of the superior Saloon!   :D
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by rich1 on Jan 14th, 2013, 8:23pm
My first scorpio (the one that got me hooked on these things) was an estate . The 2.9 cosworth and ive got to say i loved it until it when tits up , my loss highlanders gain :-(
Since then ive had 2 saloons including the one i have now , i do miss the estate ,it was handy for carting stuff about . But ive got to say now i do prefer the saloon , and you can still get plenty in the huge boot and i think they just look better , but hey wadda i know
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by gozz on Jan 14th, 2013, 8:28pm
The superior saloon is not too handy for conveyance of the deceased from their place of demise PJ.It's horses for courses, station wagon is a Yank term for that type of vehicle used on their cattle stations.Our old term of course is 'shooting brake', used for transporting the gentry on bird and animal murdering sessions in the countryside by way of their double barrels, hoorah Henry eh what,"you shot my deuced dog you swine", "apologies old bean,it was running like a ruddy deer"  ::)
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by Jeff on Jan 14th, 2013, 9:11pm
Come on chaps we should all at least acknowledge the arse end of the saloon is not its best feature...whereas the estate is quate 'andsum, m'lady....and doesn't take a bishop's blessing to start it ...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-21009301
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by Tenfut on Jan 14th, 2013, 9:56pm
http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu264/Tenfut/SAM_0684_zps28ebf556.jpg

Back end looks fine to me

Tony
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by Matt on Jan 14th, 2013, 11:26pm
http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd429/Matt24v/Ford%20Fair%202012/2002.jpg

the saloon has a lovely arce lol,

anyway back on topic anyone got a reply off either of them?
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by Jeff on Jan 15th, 2013, 7:33pm
Bloody ell....that's nice, Matt. I have one that colour too (it is aubergine, isn't it?). I like the twin tail pipes - more info please.

And any more pics? You may have just inspired me to get mine sorted again (currently not on road, using a silver one, def not as good).
It was this that inspired me to get a Nissan 300ZX:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/simon_parsons/Untitled-5.jpg
...now that is a nice arse, madam.
TBH, I think the back end of the Scorpio was a disaster when it first came out, but looks better these days. I think that must mean it is basically a good design. I find designs that I don't immediately like grow on me. Music's the same.
Still waiting for this effect to happen with HID mind....
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by tiff on Jan 17th, 2013, 3:19am
I'd noticed that too.

As mentioned, the cheaper of the 2 ads shows the rear bumper not as flush - perhaps they have clipped it and that's why the cheaper price - if they fix it then the higher price applies?
It's fairly common place between traders to do this sort of thing.
I am tempted to view the car but info isn't very forthcoming from either seller, and it's a fair way for me to travel on such limited info
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by bernard_slade on Jan 17th, 2013, 3:02pm
when i had sierras i quickly got rid of the estate version because the hard rear suspension (presumably to cope with heavier loads) was uncomfortable . when i lost my well loved scorp diesel saloon to arnitel poisoning i wanted a replacement but being hens teeth i settled for a facelift estate auto (real hens teeth) i am happy to say that the scorp estate does not suffer the harsh ride of other estates and i am really getting to like it  as well as the saloon
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by tiff on Jan 27th, 2013, 5:28am
looks like it sold...hopefully to an enthusiast
Title: Re: Possible Scam estate
Post by a900one on Jan 27th, 2013, 9:42am
well there is another one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1997-FORD-SCORPIO-GRANADA-ULTIMA-2-3-16V-AUTO-MAUVE-PURPLE-/111005516305?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D5167304436037117651%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D271133068807%26


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