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(Message started by: Daniel on Nov 21st, 2013, 5:58pm)
Title: My 24v Saloon Ultima*No Longer For Sale*
Post by Daniel on Nov 21st, 2013, 5:58pm
Hi all
Well this is it then. Due to stupid insurance quotes  (over 450 PER MONTH :o) I can no longer keep my scorpio. So i am thinking of selling her if the right offer comes up :( if not i will keep her fix up then sell for much more  ;D
I will NOT sell her to banger racers.
I will get some more info up and try to get pics up saturday
Just a few bits of info for now

Silver
2.9 24v cosworth engine
Ultima
R reg
Pre Facelift
Tax ran out end of july
MOT out 2 weeks ago
Only 24k MILES!!!!!!
Serviced by the same dealer that supplied new every 2000 miles!!!
Needs work but when done could easily win awards when done. Will be one of if not the best and most original scorpio's out there
If you need info now please just message me.
Car in Birmingham
More info saturday
Thanks
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima
Post by fieldashley on Nov 21st, 2013, 7:44pm
Hi Daniel sorry to see this post, how come the insurance is so expensive? I had my first Scorpio at age 22 and only paid around £800 a year.

Would be a shame to let that low miler go...
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Nov 21st, 2013, 8:07pm
Sorry to hear that Daniel - I guess you are a bit youger than most on this site & the 24v is quite a high grouped car, painful decision for you but £450 per month...ouch !
Is SORN & garaging not an option till you are a bit older ?
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima
Post by Daniel on Nov 21st, 2013, 8:08pm
Hi mate
I am gutted but its a shame for it to just sit there, needs to be used properly for one in its life  as for the quotes i am yet to pass my test so that might be the main reason. :)  so all the quotes are for a new driver.  I need to be sensible and get a little car first, gain experience then go for a scorpio. If i dont get what i want for mine now i will store it, fix it then try to sell again or keep it if insurance is low enough.
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Nov 21st, 2013, 8:12pm

on 11/21/13 at 20:08:17, Daniel wrote:
Hi mate
I am gutted but its a shame for it to just sit there, needs to be used properly for one in its life  as for the quotes i am yet to pass my test so that might be the main reason. :)  so all the quotes are for a new driver.  I need to be sensible and get a little car first, gain experience then go for a scorpio. If i dont get what i want for mine now i will store it, fix it then try to sell again or keep it if insurance is low enough.


If you have somewhere to keep it that may be your best option as prices are rock bottom right now. You are right - get a small & cheap to insure car for now, build up some NCD and you will probably be able to get it on a classic policy when you are 25. £450 a month is more than I've ever paid for a full years insurance on anything, even including the Porsche I had when I was 21...long time ago now  ;)
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima
Post by Matt on Nov 21st, 2013, 8:42pm
Bit more info for dan.

The engine has an oil pressure issue which had caused the drivers side set of cam shafts to chew into the head.

Sprockets, chains and guides are all unknown at present as is the bottom end for metal filings in the sump, bottem end bearings etc.

Runs but only has oil pressure if revs are kept above 2.5k
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima
Post by Daniel on Nov 21st, 2013, 9:37pm
Cheers for info matt  :)
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima
Post by wayne_Devon on Nov 21st, 2013, 10:14pm
I'll give you £300 and collect on Saturday !
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima
Post by Daniel on Nov 22nd, 2013, 8:27am

on 11/21/13 at 17:58:29, Daniel wrote:
I will NOT sell her to banger racers.


;) Sorry Mate  ;D
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Nov 22nd, 2013, 12:04pm

on 11/22/13 at 08:27:46, Daniel wrote:
;) Sorry Mate  ;D


Don't blame you Dan, only 26k miles you say ?
Keep it if you can & mothball in a dry garage - a few years from now you will have a very nice rare classic car  ;)
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima
Post by Daniel on Nov 22nd, 2013, 12:18pm
24k miles mike.  ;D
If it doesnt go as it is, i will happily keep it  :)
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima
Post by fieldashley on Nov 22nd, 2013, 6:35pm
Any pictures yet dan? Also what needs sorting on it bud??
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima
Post by Daniel on Nov 22nd, 2013, 6:50pm
I will send you a pm now mate
No pics yet need to use my nans computer to add them, i will get them up tommorrow. :)
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima
Post by Matt on Nov 22nd, 2013, 8:59pm
Pics from your first post Dan and the Fault list Ashley

http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/cosworthdan19/slideshow/My%20Scorpio%20Cosworth

1. Engine requires a full strip down and rebuild requiring new cylinder head, cam shafts and oil pump. it may require more but We've not stripped it down to check.

2. Auto box needs attention, the selector is very stiff, it will just about go into Drive but selecting 1 or 2 is impossible. I'm 99% sure it will just be seized up ball joints on the linkage but again not investigated fully. Dont know if the kick down works as didnt want to push it to hard. It did drive all the way back from london to birmingham however

3. Paint work, it requires a respray on the bonnet, roof, boot lid and rear bumper.
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima
Post by wayne_Devon on Nov 22nd, 2013, 9:52pm
Definitely a banger by the sounds of it !
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima
Post by Daniel on Nov 23rd, 2013, 8:15am

on 11/22/13 at 21:52:58, wayne_Devon wrote:
Definitely a banger by the sounds of it !


DEFINATLY NOT A BANGER!!!! WAY TOO GOOD FOR THAT NEEDS TO BE SEEN IN THE FLESH.
I HAVE DECIDED NOT TO SELL IT!!!!Thanks to everyone for the interest but after comparing it to others on ebay and autotrader, and looking at the pics i have taken
(i will put them up later to show you all)
i will never be able to find one like it. I will just regret it in the future.
So the plan is keep it as it is for now, save up, get it sorted and enjoy  ;D
Thanks again all
Dan
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima*No Longer For Sale*
Post by Scorpio on Nov 23rd, 2013, 9:12am
Well done Daniel. A good decision.
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima*No Longer For Sale*
Post by Daniel on Nov 23rd, 2013, 9:48am

on 11/23/13 at 09:12:26, Scorpio wrote:
Well done Daniel. A good decision.


Thanks Mate :)
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima*No Longer For Sale*
Post by gozz on Nov 23rd, 2013, 10:22am
Dan.
If I were you,having decided to keep the car,I would remove the engine in the spring possibly with guidance from the likes of Matt,then as funds allow,rebuild it carefully or obtain a proven replacement.You will be well aware that advanced body corrosion is the main decider on any monocoque car,so if yours is not too far gone it's well worth keeping because as you are a young chap you will see the time when the Scorpio is a rare and even valuable marque.
In the 1950s and 60s I had numerous Austin 7s and Ford Ys which we used to buy from scrap yards for £2 10s ( £2.50) as long as they would start we would drive away not bothering about niceties like tax and insurance,the MOT was not invented.
So imagine yourself as GOZZ in your 70s with a beautiful rare 24v Scorpio which most people will have forgotten ever existed  8)
The main stumbling block far into the future regarding the Scorpio will be obtaining parts because these cars were not hugely mass produced,nor were they everyone's  cup of tea  ::) whereas small pre war British cars have always had a big following,thus most parts are available albeit,at a price.
Stick with it Dan,be tenacious and unswerving,if negative thoughts creep into your head,look at your car and dismiss them,but do make sure you care for the Scorpio whilst it's in a dormant state.
                                                         Good luck.
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima*No Longer For Sale*
Post by Andycan on Nov 23rd, 2013, 10:40am
Well said Gozz
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima*No Longer For Sale*
Post by Scorpio on Nov 23rd, 2013, 1:12pm
Great advice as usual Gozz.
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima*No Longer For Sale*
Post by Daniel on Nov 23rd, 2013, 2:40pm
Thank You Gozz. Really helped me decide.
Just loading the pics up now anyway that helped me :)
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima*No Longer For Sale*
Post by Matt on Nov 23rd, 2013, 3:38pm
great news mate, well soon get it running again, Im eager to see what failed internally!
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima*No Longer For Sale*
Post by Daniel on Nov 23rd, 2013, 4:18pm
cheers matt. cant wait just to hear it running properly now  :)
Ive sent you a pm too.
Dan  :)
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima*No Longer For Sale*
Post by Matt on Nov 23rd, 2013, 4:28pm
Replied mate  ;) :)
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima*No Longer For Sale*
Post by fieldashley on Nov 23rd, 2013, 7:00pm
Dan glad to see your keeping it dude, looks good in the pictures. Defiantly a keeper.

My auto selector would go too stiff to move every now and then, had to keep topping up the gearbox oil, turned out I needed a new jubilee clip on the gearbox oil cooler as is was slowly dripping.

Defiantly need to keep hold yours dan will be worth sorting out in the end.

Just been and picked myself up another Scorpio today, a 1999 V reg 2.3 facelift ultima with only 36k miles on the clock, it had only done 39 miles in the last 4 years 2 months since it's last mot, drove it back 50 miles took it for an and it passed.
Is now sat in my sisters garage and will be taken out every year for the mot and that's it, hopefully will be worth something one day.
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima*No Longer For Sale*
Post by Daniel on Nov 23rd, 2013, 7:22pm
thanks mate. after reading the service history, mot, and having a good look at it, i couldn't do it  :)
I did read about you buying it, i have never seen one on a v plate so thought id pop it up on here incase someone was interested, glad you got it  
:)
Mine will only be used for the occasional show now and again, to keep it one of/the lowest mileage scorpio   ;D
Would you consider taking it to shows?
Would be good to see it on day
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima*No Longer For Sale*
Post by fieldashley on Nov 23rd, 2013, 8:19pm
Nah won't be going to the shows with it, the one you put up in silver my brother bought that will be at wickstead park next year along with my blue one. The one I purchased today is red also v reg and the plates are almost identical.
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima*No Longer For Sale*
Post by Daniel on Nov 23rd, 2013, 8:21pm
Oh nice. hope to see you there then.
What are the chances of 2 v plates  :)
Title: Re: My 24v Saloon Ultima*No Longer For Sale*
Post by fieldashley on Nov 23rd, 2013, 8:36pm
Yeah both off the same owner one v152 jdu the other v153 jdu


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