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(Message started by: admin on Sep 6^th, 2004, 11:23pm)

Title: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by admin on Sep 6^th, 2004, 11:23pm

Sorry all

Due to the Hurricane the Network Centre was hit and suffered a brown out - that killed the hard disk on the server and as we didn't have a backup (too poor) we lost a lot of the data.

The server and site is now back up and I have ordered some extra hardware so that the sites are backup every night just in case!

Apologies to everyone for the disruption and anyone who joined the site between May and September will need to register again.

Steve
Webmaster

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by Simmo on Sep 7^th, 2004, 12:03am

Steve, Have just re entered details as instructed. Are you aware that the clock is out by 4 hours. Cheers,Simmo

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by Lee on Sep 7^th, 2004, 12:12am

hi wondered what had happened looks like i'm a new member again still great site and keep up good work

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by JohnJ on Sep 6^th, 2004, 9:14pm

Good work Steve, It would be a bit hard to predict a brown out, Ironic loads of people would have been happy to have candle light bulbs but it wrecked the hard drive!

Its almost unheard of nowadays, In Donegal Ireland it was a regular occurance,

I think its caused by the loss of one of the phases.
But who cares we are back on untill Ivin comes and blows the site away. ::)

Very unheard of the possibilty of a 3rd hurricane in as little as a month. :o

Cheers
JJ ;)

Ivan is a third hurricane rocketing towards Florida as we speak!

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by ADroste on Sep 6^th, 2004, 9:58pm

admin,

is there a chance that some of the May to September postings can be recovered; in minimum from the problems section? As far as I remember you used the new provider since May 04. So all what was recovered seems to come from the old provider's server.

I cant believe that the hard disk(s) lost all information. Off course, I should keep quiet because the site is free of charge up to now. Nevertheless I get a little bit annoyed, if I imagine that in times when RAID controllers and drives become quite inexpensive, a huge amount of know-how is lost only because someone forgot to perform standard precautions. (I.e. emergency power-down and putting the computer(s) in a cellar.)

Please forgive me, if I am unfair. My excuse is that I read the storm message just before, and am verry dissapointed about loosing a lot of tips and tricks.

Regards
Armin

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by Elfasto on Sep 6^th, 2004, 10:03pm

nutsty bit of rotton luck.

Oh well. Life goes on.......

Glad I kept some of my PM relies on my computer.

BTW, still looking for the intake manifold...... :-/

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by admin on Sep 7^th, 2004, 1:25am

ADroste

Unfortunately the hard drive was very dead - lots of IO errors as it was mounted and was thus unreadable.

I hold up my hands as being the person who didn't back up the message boards - we had a fairly recent backup of the site on another server but not of the forum.

As I paid for the servers and bandwidth out of my own pocket with the help from the advertizing income and the kind donations of members I ended up without the backup system for the forum.

Anyway, I have just ordered some backup systems and I am having some backup software written that will backup the site and forum to another hard drive every night so if it happens again we can recover back to the previous day.

We live and learn :)

Steve

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by Richard on Sep 7^th, 2004, 2:10am

I've lost over 400 posts, never thought i had done that many in that short time.
I was a full member with nearly 500.
There must have been a lot of info lost there eh Steve ???

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by Vulcan on Sep 7^th, 2004, 7:57am

When my forum was running at full speed (no interest in it now) I used to backup the boards, members and messages folders every other night manually using Cute FTP and the whole CGI-bin once a week using the same method, tedious I know.

Only once had a catastrophic failure such as this and it was due to hacking rather than hardware failure.. recovered back to two days previous but still lost over a 100 posts during that time.

I had a trusted member, mate of mine who had ftp privs to the server and he used to help by also by pulling the whole CGI-bin down to his local hard drive every weekend.

It's difficult with the constraints of time and work to always remember to do the backups and an automated system is usually much better. I hope you get it all sorted.

regards

George

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by rpike on Sep 7^th, 2004, 3:04pm

Greetings All,

I've just discovered this wonderful website and I'm amazed just how informative and helpful it is !! :)

Can I ask possibley the obvious in light of the hardware failures unfortunately suffered most recently? A page on rebuilding door locks has become unavailable in recent days, is this likely to reappear soon or has it gone forever? ???

Regards,

Richard

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by Vulcan on Sep 7^th, 2004, 5:41pm

I just checked and this page is definately 404.
I am sure that Admin will have a backup of it and replace it in due course.
In the unlikely event that they do not I will have the page as I have the whole site "HTTPweazel'd" on my hard drive.
I saw this site as such a useful resource that I was worried it might someday disappear due to something like this happening and never come back so I pulled it down as a searchable resource on my hdd to be used in an emergency. :D

Not the forums I hasten to add as they are protected by .htaccess files and cannot be seen from the web. So I can't help with the lost posts.

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by rpike on Sep 8^th, 2004, 11:06am

Vulcan,

Thanks for the response.

Seeing as though I was halfway through rebuilding a new barrel kit (£27+vat) when the site went down I'm kinda stuck, having destroyed the old lock in taking it apart and now looking at a gaping hole where the new one should be fitted. :-[

Would really appreciate you digging that rebuild info off your hard drive, not knowing when the site will be back up to full speed. If possible can you email it?

Cheers,

Richard

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by Fitzy on Sep 8^th, 2004, 4:23pm

I know we are all upset at losing some posts due to the Florida hurricanes, but remember our posts are insignificant compared to the people of Florida who have lost just about everything they own and some poor soles actually lost their lives during these storms.

So what the heck who cares about losing some posts the sites back up and we can always start the posts again and enjoy the banter that went with them, good work admin, keep it up.

Fitzy ;) ;D ;)

p.s. " ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE" DE DUM, DE DUM DE DUM DE DUM.

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by Vulcan on Sep 8^th, 2004, 5:48pm

on 09/08/04 at 11:06:57, rpike wrote:

Sent you a mail.....

George

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by admin on Sep 8^th, 2004, 6:19pm

Vulcan

That's great and we don't have a backup of those recent pages so can you zip them up and email them to me - I can then transfer the content across to the site.

Cheers

Steve
webmaster@fordscorpio.co.uk

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by Vulcan on Sep 8^th, 2004, 6:28pm

Hi Steve, no problems I can zip any of the pages you like, if you give me an idea of all the recent pages you want they'll be on their way asap.
I haven't been through the whole site to see what is missing but the doorlockbld file seems to be the only one I can see. If there are any more then I can send them all at the same time.

Regards
George

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by JohnJ on Sep 9^th, 2004, 11:30am

Hold you hat on Florida Ivan has been upgraded to a cat 5 hurricane and is supposed to hit downtown florida head on. there are hundreds of thunderstorms surrunding the eye wall.

It has sustained winds of 175mph :o

Hope the site sticks this one out.

All the best to the poor people in its wake.

Regards
JJ

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by Richard on Sep 9^th, 2004, 12:33pm

on 09/07/04 at 02:10:37, Richard wrote:

I've lost over 400 posts, never thought i had done that many in that short time.
Steve ???

Well the posting number has returned back as it was but i can't see any old posts, Were they lost or did you manage to recover any of them ?.

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by JohnJ on Sep 9^th, 2004, 1:02pm

My posting number was over 480 before the storm, mine is not back

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by Elfasto on Sep 9^th, 2004, 5:24pm

on 09/09/04 at 11:30:17, JohnJ wrote:

ADMINS:

Is there anything I can do to backup files to assist the site? I do have some space on my hardrive.

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by gainscow on Sep 10^th, 2004, 5:49pm

Hi Steve

Sorry about the server.As you have paid for this out of your own pocket and I find it a very useful and freindly site I would be quite happy to send you a donation . I can send a cheque If you send me details to my e-mail.

Much appreciate all the effort.

Glyn

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by Neil on Sep 11^th, 2004, 1:06pm

Since restoration after the wipe-out I find there are no left hand buttons on just one page; the servicing/repairs button on the home page - when clicked - leads to an empty page. :-/

This applies when accessing via my home PC (Win XP Home) or laptop (Win 98SE). :-[

Is this a site rebuild problem or is there some other reason?

Neil W

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by admin on Sep 11^th, 2004, 3:26pm

I think that has now fixed the missing menu (at least I can see it now).

Thanks Glyn for the offer of a donation - we use PayPal to receive donations as we use the same account to pay for the servers and bandwidth which makes life a lot easier - the links are on the homepage and everything is anonymous and really does help.

If anyone finds anything else wrong please let me know.

Steve
webmaster@fordscorpio.co.uk

Title: Re: Florida Hurricanes and Server Died
Post by Elfasto on Oct 15^th, 2004, 2:10am

Padder!

;D