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(Message started by: waynem325 on May 27^th, 2005, 2:50pm)

Title: 2.9 24v Scorpio Newb here
Post by waynem325 on May 27^th, 2005, 2:50pm

Hi guys,

Just thought I would take a moment to introduce myself and say hello.
I've just bought a '95 2.9 24v Ultima due to collect tomorrow. I just can't wait-i've been after one for so long and finally........(I feel like a kid on Christmas eve)

I really wanted to say a huge thanks to everyone involved in the site as I've been reading many many posts/buyers guides etc over the last few weeks. All in all-the advice on here came in extremely handy when buying and I just hope that I got me a good one.

I forgot to look for a few things once inside the car, but I checked the auto fluid and it was a browny/red colour but smelt very "minerally" (If thats a word???)
The TCS and ABS lights lit up when on the test drive, though I was assured by the dealer that it would be looked at/sorted before I came to collect the car. (The pads and discs looked in bloody good nick, and no vibration under breaking was noticed)
All the internal electrics seemed to operate as they should, and the c/c is nice and cold.
She's got 88k on the clock with a fully stamped service book every 10k miles and a heap of receipts.

It all seems good but I guess only time will tell.

I live in Gosport, Hants- so will be looking at any of the Southern meets in the future and hope to see maybe a few of you there!

Wayne

Title: Re: 2.9 24v Scorpio Newb here
Post by craig on May 27^th, 2005, 3:04pm

HI AND WELCOME...

when you do pick the car up,make sure the dealer/seller has checked out and rectified the abs and tc lights coming on,probably dirty sensors i would guess,but good luck with it all and enjoy..!!!!!

craig

Title: Re: 2.9 24v Scorpio Newb here
Post by Danny_R on May 27^th, 2005, 4:21pm

Hi Wayne,

Welcome to the board. Like Craig has already said, be sure to check the lights on the dash before you take the car and make sure they do actually illuminate and extinguish when you start the car. If they don’t illuminate I would suspect the dealer removed the led's (like they did on mine).

Anyhow welcome and enjoy the car!

Regards

Danny_R

Title: Re: 2.9 24v Scorpio Newb here
Post by Dave on May 27^th, 2005, 4:30pm

Hi Wayne,

welcome to the site!

Just to reiterate, if the lights come on then go off when you start the car, but come on again when moving it is likely to be a sensor at fault - a rear sensor at that as they do both ABS + TC. Our 1996 24v did this a few weeks ago, was just dirty sensors.

Enjoy!

Cheers :D

Title: Re: 2.9 24v Scorpio Newb here
Post by craig on May 27^th, 2005, 5:39pm

EXCELLENT REPLY BY DANNY AS WELL,MAKE SURE THEY DO ILLUMINATE AND EXTINGUISH,I FORGOT THE REMOVING THE BULB/LED BIT.HAS BEEN KNOWN..!!

ps..HAPPY BIRTHDAY DANNY... ;) ;) ;)

Title: Re: 2.9 24v Scorpio Newb here
Post by waynem325 on May 27^th, 2005, 6:10pm

Sound advice-cheers fella's.

I keep reading previous posts and get excited knowing how great the car is....then I get really worried because of all the horror stories.
I just wanna get my hands on the keys to put me outta my misery.
Atleast (hopefully the ABS/TCS prob should be an easy one to fix...?

I haven't actually heard from the garage tonight like they said I would, so I'm guessing there's some kind of delay?????

I'm getting paranoid ??? ??? :o :-/ ;) :) :D ;D

Title: Re: 2.9 24v Scorpio Newb here
Post by Baz on May 27^th, 2005, 6:55pm

Wayne,

just remember that most people only post on here when they have a problem. The horror stories of timing chains snapping etc. don't happen to every car!! I had an S reg with 112000 on the clock that was as quiet as a mouse in slippers; I get more noise from this one with 69000 on it. I have owned these for about 3 years now and apart from the usual servicing etc. and stuff I wanted to do, I have never been let down and had to fit front discs to both cars and a couple iof radiators. Not bad overall I would say

Good luck

Baz

Title: Re: 2.9 24v Scorpio Newb here
Post by ren on May 27^th, 2005, 9:38pm

Hi

Welcome to the site

Ren

Title: Re: 2.9 24v Scorpio Newb here
Post by Danny_R on May 27^th, 2005, 10:58pm

Hey Craig, Cheers Mate 8) How i could murder a REAL pint right now followed by a ruby murray :P :P :P

Title: Re: 2.9 24v Scorpio Newb here
Post by waynem325 on May 28^th, 2005, 1:31pm

Thanks Baz (& Ren and a belated happy birthday to Danny)

Is it highly recommended to use a Ford Main Dealer for sevicing and repairs, or would your average run-of-the-mill garage be sufficiently knowledgable to cater for the Scorpio's needs? I usually steer clear of FMD's whenever possible, but I wouldn't want to trust the "average Joe" mechanic if the car needed proper attention etc?

I'm pretty much capable to carry out minor servicing like oil and filter changes, air filters and spark plugs etc etc but anything else requiring major tech/mech skills and pneumatic ramps etc I'll draw the line and send it to someone who'd know what to do!

As soon as I get the car I want to change the oil and filter, though more importantly (I think?) the auto box oil mainly to get a relatively good idea on what kind of condition the box is in.

Watch out for new threads starting sooooooooon...... ;)

Title: Re: 2.9 24v Scorpio Newb here
Post by craig on May 28^th, 2005, 2:39pm

when you do the oil and filter change,make sure you use a genuine ford filter and obviously synthetic oil....

Title: Re: 2.9 24v Scorpio Newb here
Post by ChrisB on Jun 3^rd, 2005, 2:16pm

Hi Wayne and welcome,

So we shall be expecting you at the Black Dog on the 21st of June then :D

Have you had it ODB'd yet ?? if not there will be one available at the meet on the 21st and we can suck its brians out and see what things it knows ;) if anything.

Look forward to seeing you , if you need directions either PM me or I think they are under the southern area meet thread.

ChrisB

Title: Re: 2.9 24v Scorpio Newb here
Post by Kenboy on Jun 3^rd, 2005, 2:49pm

Wishing you many miles of happy scorpio trouble free motoring and a warmwelcome to the site.

regards kenboy

Title: Re: 2.9 24v Scorpio Newb here
Post by waynem325 on Jun 3^rd, 2005, 11:32pm

Thanks again guys, certainly for the swift info, but more importantly the warm welcome.
Unfortunately I'm not yet in the Scorpio "gang" as there have been a few "unforseen problems" with the car at the dealers. Firstly (the day I went to view it) the radiator had a bad leak. Determined not to be put off as the rest of the car was fine, I accepted the offer of a test drive. (after the rad was topped up)
Everything went well and everything worked as it should, the auto box felt smooth and the engine sounded fine. (A nice little roar with a heavy right foot!)
I was told a new rad was ordered for the following day and it would be ready for collection the day after (Saturday). So I paid a £100 deposit and "skipped" away with a grin on my face. ;D

I called on Sat. to arrange a suitable time etc but was greeted with more bad news-this time the water pump needed replacing! (with a genuine Ford part no less!!!)
"Give us a call on Wednesday and it should be ready for you" I was told.......guess what......Still not ready-Ford had sent the Scorpio pump, but not for the Cosworth! (Is there a difference?) There may be problems aquiring a Cosworth pump so there could be an even longer delay!
I've gotta call them tomorrow (Saturday) to see if its ready, but I have a funny feeling it won't be???
I'm unsure if I'm getting paranoid but I don't like the sound of it. The guy at the garage seems genuine (don't they all??) and the car is getting a few new parts, but is this just a coincidence or is it a sign of things to come if I bought it????

What do you all reckon?

Wayne

CHRISB-where the hell is "Black dog" :)

Title: Re: 2.9 24v Scorpio Newb here
Post by ChrisB on Jun 4^th, 2005, 2:24pm

Welcome to the open wallet surgery club ;D

Well its not really that bad but you have to remember these cars are devishly complicated but do remember there is loads and loads of people here who will be able to save you £1000's in maintenace.
This site is way better than any Haynes manual you will find on a vehicle ( not that there will ever be one for the scorp ;) )

You will find details of our meet here
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=news;action=display;num=1100377992;start=0#0
As before if you need directions drop me a Private message ( PM )

These cars can be a little scary to own but that is far out weighed by the pleasure of actually owning one, if that makes sence :D

Hope it all goes well and you are able to pick it up soon, rads going duff on 24v's are a known issue but I dont know about the water pump.

ChrisB

Title: Re: 2.9 24v Scorpio Newb here
Post by Dave on Jun 4^th, 2005, 3:25pm

Wayne,

not 100% sure if the 24v water pump is different from the 12v but would not surprise me. When our 24v was in for some work, including new water pipes, the wrong parts were sent 3 times before I went and got them myself!!

Basically, just keep an eye on it. Think of it this way, the chap selling it could have just bunged a new radiator in and kept quiet about the water pump. It may just be a coincidence but if they keep in touch and let you know what is going on then don't worry just yet! :)

Cheers

Title: Re: 2.9 24v Scorpio Newb here
Post by waynem325 on Jun 4^th, 2005, 4:15pm

total bummer bout the Haynes manual. That was 1 of the first things I found out about the Scorpio when I initially became interested in them. Often wondered what I'd do when the servicing came around (Been a tight ass means I try and stay clear of garage labour prices) then I found this site!!! Knowing there are so many people on here who know the car inside out made me feel a lot more confident in buying the Scorpio, which is what gave me the final little push to go out and buy one!!! (Cheers guys)

As for my car-I've now been told it WILL be ready on Tuesday at the latest......but I won't hold my breath!

And count me in for the Black Dog meet. (Obviously if I have the car by then :) ) I know where Waltham chase is but not the Black Dog itself so expect a PM in a few days ;) Am really keen to see what these OBD leads are all about.

Dave-thanks for the vote of confidence-The manager of the garage seems a really reasonable bloke who appears to be more embarrassed than anything about the whole situation. I can't really blame him for something that isn't his fault and plus he's putting 12 months MOT on her and giving a 3 month warranty for everything!
Can't really say fairer than that!??!

Anyway-watch this space for a follow up on Tuesday and keep those fingers crossed!

Wayne

Title: Re: 2.9 24v Scorpio Newb here
Post by ChrisB on Jun 5^th, 2005, 4:17pm

Your more than welcome to come along to the meet without a Scorp its not law you bring one ;D ;D
You can lust over our ones then ;D
ChrisB

Title: Re: 2.9 24v Scorpio Newb here
Post by waynem325 on Jun 5^th, 2005, 5:12pm

on 06/05/05 at 16:17:46, ChrisB wrote:

You can lust over our ones then ;D
ChrisB

LMAO!! :)

With all due respect I may decline if something goes wrong and I don't end up with the car-it would be like rubbing salt in the wounds! :(

Though on the other hand it would be fantastic to see lots of Scorpio's in the flesh and to get a stack of advice on what to look for on the next one I buy ;D

I shall be there!!
(work permitting :()

Title: Re: 2.9 24v Scorpio Newb here
Post by martin_rowe on Jun 6^th, 2005, 8:38am

24v water pump is a one off, only available as a genuine unit from dealers.
Martin