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(Message started by: geraghtyg on Jun 30^th, 2006, 8:55pm)

Title: Selling My Car :-(
Post by geraghtyg on Jun 30^th, 2006, 8:55pm

Well I saw a nice car today and have decided to buy it. It's 2001 Hyundai XG25. Black one. Ex demo so is top of the range. Best thing is the great trade in price I got for the Scorpio - €4,500. I couldn't believe it when he offered me that!!! Here are a few pics
http://images.carzone.ie/images/fairviewXGBla874.jpg
http://images.carzone.ie/images/fairviewXGBla875.jpg
OK, that's her in all her glory. Anyone have any opinions?

I'd like to take this oppurtunity to thank Eric and the team and all the members on here for all your help over the past few years. Without this site, I would have had more trouble.

Graham

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by Baw_Flinger on Jul 3^rd, 2006, 8:20am

Good luck with the new motor :) I am in the same boat as well but when it came to trade in, the most I got offerd was £300 for my Scorp and they didnt even look at her. All I got was ' Ah, tsk, theres no money in them mate, worthless...' So you did RATHER well out of that deal I think mate :) Does look like a nice ride, good to see you still went for something with an ugly ass ;) ;D
What sized engine does it have?

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by Spannerdemon on Jul 3^rd, 2006, 8:22am

Very nice. Hope you enjoy it. :)

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by Dave on Jul 3^rd, 2006, 8:59am

Wow! You did extremely well on that trade in (even by my maths ;))!

And wow again cos that Hyundai is pretty tasty! Bit like the Scorp I guess, not quite the "norm" so you are sticking with tradition ;)

Hope you enjoy it :)

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by km449 on Jul 3^rd, 2006, 10:49am

Can see what I'll be getting when "the time comes"!

You must let us know how it compares please

Thanks, Keith

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by geraghtyg on Jul 3^rd, 2006, 11:24am

Thanks everyone - Yeah, she is quite a nice motor and she's bigger than the Scorpio. It's over 6' wide and just a shade over 16' long. Engine is a 2.5 V6 24 valve. And it is seriously silent. It's auto but with shiftronic too where I can push the gear stickup to go up a gear and down to go down a gear....developed by Porsch, of all companies!!! Looking forward to getting and I'll be sure to let ya know how the drive goes. If you go to autotrader and serach for the XG, you'll see loads of them and at a great price. These cars are fully loaded as standard. Chances are you'll only fins XG30's with the 3 litre engine. I think the 2.5 litre was only available in Korea, where they are built. And of course, where the silly car tax system penalises you more for a bigger engine, hence the small engine cars rule in Ireland. Oh, and the car has a nice feature I was not expecting - frameless doors!!! how fancy :D

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by km449 on Jul 4^th, 2006, 4:20pm

One of the main buying points for me may be whether the remotes work for more than a week at a time!

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by RichardMS on Jul 4^th, 2006, 6:46pm

Doesn't look too bad does it but I would be pimping all the Hyundai bits out of site though ;D ;)

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by km449 on Jul 7^th, 2006, 6:08pm

Wot news of the XG???

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by geraghtyg on Jul 7^th, 2006, 6:20pm

Only got the car today and heading out on the beer so shall give my first comments tomrrow

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by geraghtyg on Jul 8^th, 2006, 5:18pm

Well I had my first run in my car today.....driving to work unfortunately :-[

As for the car, all I can say (and not trying cause offence buy saying this) is that it puts the Scorpio to shame.
The car is literally full of toys. When reversing, you can select whether the wing mirrors dont dip, whether just the left one dips or whether both dip. A nice feature. The ignition barrell illuminates as does the door lock, not that I use it as I now have a remote that works properly!!!!When you pull the key from the ignition, the seat slides back as far as it goes to make it easier for you to get out - obviously a car made for the U.S. market!!!! It has a foot operated parking brake too - still have to get used to that as I've already driven a few times, forgetting to release it. Where the handbrake would normally be is a nice wood effect area with two cup holders that pop up slowly when you press on the panel they are hidden under.
There are also two hidden cupholders built in the rear centre armrest.

The climate control is fully automatic and there are vents in the rear too. A button can be pressed on the CC panel and air conditioned air is then passed to the rear.

The doors are frameless - rather unusual for a luxury saloon. And there are no wind leaks or squeeks or rattles as a result. When shutting the doors, the sound emitted is very pleasant and conveys a sense of solidness.

The instrument cluster displays whether you are in P, N, R or D. It also tells you which gear you are in. Gearbox is also shiftronic. Bang the stick to the left and then you can push up to go up a gear and down to go down a gear. Engine is a 2.5L 24v V6 and is ultra smooth and quiet unless you rev it, in which case it gives a very very satisfying growl. Gear changes are not even noticable most of the time - a bloody fantastic gearbox it is. It uses "Fuzzy Logic" whereby it learns your driving style and anticipates when you want to shift. It also know if you are on a downhill slope so it will go down a gear so you can use engine braking.

Fuel tank is 70 litres - the same as the Scorpio. I filled the tank and when I started the engine, it said 404 miles to empty. Now if I actually get 400 miles from it, then that means the car is about 30 - 40% MORE economic than the samller engined 4 cylinder 2.3 Scorpio - I was lucky to get 300 miles from a tank with that.

Oh, one more thing - the suspension is ultra soft. Multi link in the rear too and all shocks are nitrogen filled. This car simply absorbs all the bumps. It feels very American on the road although I'm sure if it is thrown around a corner, there will be considerable lean and roll.

That's all I have to say for now. I'll fill in more info if/as I think of it. Any questions are welcome

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by km449 on Jul 8^th, 2006, 6:28pm

Thanks for that - sounds cool!

Down the line can you give us some feedback re high speed straight line stability in cross winds.

My Ultima Estate is a thing of wonder on motorways no matter what the weather conditions, and is far and away the best car I've ever had for that planted feeling.

Too often I have to go from London to Manchester to collect the wicked witch of the north west (sorry, the mother in law) and the only saving grace is that no matter what the conditions my 2.3 97 is a thing of wonder and always feels completely safe. (Could do with an ejector seat on the passenger side maybe!)

As an annual USA visitor I am comfy with foot operated "handbrakes" (does that make sense) and I have always liked the slide back facility the seats have to allow easy exit and access.

My other real interest is mpg. My 11 year old has recently won a drama school place that will increase my relatively modest mileage by 1000 miles a month from September. The school trip, a mixture of local roads either end, plus dual carriageway in between, has only shown 20.1 mpg on the Scorpio computer, varying little no matter how many Micras I let go by - and that's in the present warm weather. (You can see where I am going here).

I love my Scorp and all its Ultima toys but with school trips and exchanges on the horizon I am wondering how the XG 30 compares.

Please convince me its hopeless compared to my Scorp!!!

Keith

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by geraghtyg on Jul 8^th, 2006, 6:57pm

I haven't done any motorway driving yet although will be going home from work via the M50 (Dublin's equivalent of the M25) at 9pm tonight so I will report how it goes although it has been raining heavily all day here so conditions will be quite nasty.
My first tank which I will use will not give true MPG as I have been doing some "playing around" since I got. There is no display telling MPG so I will have to do some calculations upon my next fill-up. However I am interested to find out.
I don't think the XG25 (2.5 litre) was available in the UK. As far as I know, only the XG30 (3 litre) is available so fuel economy may differ somewhat although the XG30 does have a 5 speed gearbox as opposed to the XG25's 4 so it may or may not be worse.
I will update though

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by Dave on Jul 9^th, 2006, 8:40am

NO mpg display??? Oh forget it then..... ;)

Sounds like a really nice car and a great contender as a Scorpio replacement (closes door before he says that so the Scorp doesn't hear ;D)

What are the seats like? The leather in my 1996 saloon is soooo comfortable. Does it havea sunroof as well as climate control?

Cheers :)

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by geraghtyg on Jul 9^th, 2006, 3:43pm

Seats are so so soft and supple. Driver's seat is fully adjustable but lumbar is perform via a lever rather than electronically with the Scorpio. Passenger seat is also electronic but 4 way adjustable. Seats are heated too.

The XG has a very large sunroof too. The climate control is fully automatic. It will decide which vents to use to cool or heat the car and it will shut out outside air if you drive into heavily polluted air.

Here is an excerpt from a review on the car - Really does sound good:
"If you expected the Hyundai XG30 to be something of a joke, think again. The sales figures would suggest that it’s a bit of a duffer but behind the sorry showroom performance is a car that’s genuinely appealing. With used prices dropping through the floor, it’s hard to think of anything for comparable money and vintage that can transport you in such untrammelled luxury. The Hyundai XG30 is one of the great unsung used bargains. Bet you didn’t expect that."
The full review is available here:
http://www.carsource.co.uk/used-research?ID=RTC4BVKRPSB00DJ&mfr=X

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by km449 on Jul 9^th, 2006, 6:39pm

Hi

Does it have a leather steering wheel and are there audio controls on it?

Also, is the radio/cd noise sensitive like the Scorpio is?

Thanks

Keith

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by geraghtyg on Jul 9^th, 2006, 11:29pm

Keith, the sterring wheel in mine is a plain old plastic one with cruise control buttons on it but no stereo controls. I think the 2002 or 2003 model came with leather steering wheel with wood trim. I don't think the stereo is noise sensitive however, the sound from it is fantastic!!! Leagues ahead of the Scorpio. There is a Pioneer 6 disc changer in the boot (aftermarket) but there is a problem with this. I have to get this looked into at a hifi place.
Have to say, I am getting some serious looks in this car. Driving through the city on the way home from work tonight, people were stopping to look and point at the car. The fact that you can probably count the number of them in Ireland on one hand and that it is balck with lots of chrome and tinted windows and also the fact it looks like an American car makes people stop and stare. Oh, the aerial is electric too, as in it goes up and town when you put the stereo on/off

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by km449 on Jul 10^th, 2006, 1:54pm

Driving home this morning I happened to see an X reg X30 for 3k with 78k on it, bit tatty but thought I'd speak to local Hyundai dealer afterwards to see if there's anything to look out for.

He said that the 50k services are mega, costing 600.00 notes each but that provided that service procedure is adhered to it can be done cheaper, around 400.00 at a local garage.

Other than that he said they tend to be bulletproof.

(Had to smile - the bloke at the local dealers selling the car couldn't get the remote to work and had to use the key! Now what does that remind me of?!!)

BTW - was offered 500 for my 97 Ultima Estate, FSH, 138k in part ex if I wanted the XG30. I think not baby puppy!!

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by geraghtyg on Jul 10^th, 2006, 5:52pm

Well if you have to spend little or no money between the rather expensive services, then I suppose it's worth it. That's a horribly small amount of money for a trade-in. Oh, my cousin phoned me today. He saw my Scorpio in the city - She has been sold already!!!
Both my fobs work fine although the dealer in the garage had trouble with one of the remotes - just turned out to be a flat battery.
Oh, and my steering wheel is actually leather, not plastic as previously said by me.
I hope I'm not swaying people from Scorpio's to XG's ::)

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by km449 on Jul 10^th, 2006, 7:03pm

Checked Autotrader and 2 of those available were up for sale at 97000ish miles. Now I know why!!

The one I spotted today was silver and had silver, as opposed to chrome, door handles which seemed to have lots of pitting on and around all 4 door handles.

Had one of those steering wheels that wasnt sure if it was plastic or leather and a totally out of character shiny metal clarion audio head that "was rather out of character!"

Is that the same as yours?

Keith

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by geraghtyg on Jul 10^th, 2006, 8:02pm

Mine has 84,000 miles, chrome handle in perfect conditon andte original factory fitted stereo
I thought mine was plastic but saw the stitching so must be leather

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by Kjetil S on Jul 10^th, 2006, 8:09pm

Found a norwegian review of the XG25 wich I will try to translate as best I can.
(As I don't want to translate the whole thing, I will try to do the most important parts :))

Quote:

From the outside, the XG gives a robust and elegant impression. The lines, especially from the rear and sides has something british by it, which is underlined by extensive use of chrome - Something we also find on the Rover 75.

Distinguished, but not distinguished enough.
It is clear that Hyundai had the will when they designed the XG, but still it is a far way up to BMW, Mercedes and the other big ones when it comes to finish and quality. The leather seems cheap and plasticy. We ask ourselves when is Hyunday going to understand that wood should be wood, not cheap plastic imitations. Especially bad is it in the XG where they haven't saved on the horrible material.

Comfortable
When you've found your position behind the wheel, it is time to take the XG out on the open roads. And there is no doubt that Hyundai has put their money in comfort in the XG, but there is also little doubt that they could have worked a little longer the last night before deciding. Even if the long bumps disappear almost unnoticeable, the short ones doesn't do the same. In low speeds, and over short bumps, the suspension just doesn't cope, with the result of bumps propagating through the chassis and the coupé. The noise level could also have been better, especially wheel noise.

With a displacement of 2493ccm, the six cylinder V-engine delivers 163 horsepower, and has a maximum torque of 231Nm at 4100rpm. It can take the XG25 from 0 to 100 (km/h) in under 10 seconds, and should be more than enough to make the ride comfortable and relaxing.

Naggy automatic
When driving on the motorway it is comfortable to drive the XG. The automatic finds fourth gear quickly and stays there. The problems arise when the straight asphalt of the motorway becomes curving bends and hills. Then the automatic behaves rather nervously. It gears down and then up again constantly. It doesn't quite seem to make up its mind. The solution, ofcourse, is to change gears manually, which isn't a problem. "H-matic" is Hyundai's tiptronic-system.

More comfort than fun
One thing is for sure: The XG is not a sports car. Especially easy to notice when it comes to handling. The steering gives a bare minimum of response, but the car tells you quickly that driving fast around the bends is not an ideal situation. Not only does it tilt a lot, it also begins "side stepping" if the bend contains small pot holes or rough asphalt. The result is a far from comfortable feeling when the car loses its grips and the side forces take over.

But what about the price?
Even if the Hyundai hardly can cope when it comes to handling or feeling of quality, the price is good. While a comparable Mercedes E240 costs 542 640NOK, the Hyundai is 150 000NOK less, and that is with a higher equipment spec.

A lot of Hyundai for the money.
Therefore there is little doubt that a XG will give you a lot of car for your money. You don't get the same status you would get in a Benz, but for some status isn't everything. The specs are high, the list of extras only contain five items.

There is no doubt that the XG can offer something in the big car class, it's only misfortune being that Saab also has a big car in this price range. And a Saab 9-5 2.0T SE probably gives you more status, better finish and handling than the korean, even if it doesn't have a murring V6 and an automatic, but it is still an individual choice.

http://www.dinside.no/php/art.php?id=5051

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by km449 on Jul 10^th, 2006, 8:53pm

Graham, sorry to be a nuisance but any chance of posting some pics showing the standard fit audio head in place
Thanks, Keith

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by Baw_Flinger on Jul 11^th, 2006, 8:12am

I wonder if I have just found my next car..... ::) Its like a Scorp but it may stay on the road without breaking every week, nicey nice ;D

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by km449 on Jul 11^th, 2006, 9:31am

Check out item 150005246345 on ebay!

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by geraghtyg on Jul 11^th, 2006, 12:02pm

Go for it!!!! Hahaha

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by Baw_Flinger on Jul 12^th, 2006, 12:36am

Ooooooh..... Yeh right!, I wish :( ;D

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by km449 on Jul 12^th, 2006, 11:08am

Took an XG30 out today.

Fantastic engine, gearbox and ride but definitely not keen on roundabouts!!

Scorpio feels like a go kart handling wise in comparison!!

Keith

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by Danny_R on Jul 12^th, 2006, 12:26pm

I see a lot of those XG30's over here in the US. The front end looks a little different to the one you have. Not bad looking cars.

Danny_R

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by geraghtyg on Jul 12^th, 2006, 12:49pm

Yeah, the ride on these cars is ultrasoft. Definitly not designed to be hurled around corners!!!! But it absorbs every bump in the road excellently.
Danny, How do the US XG's differ at the front end? The UK one's seem rather American enough as it is, IMO!

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by Danny_R on Jul 12^th, 2006, 6:31pm

In all honesty the cars are basically the same, however i have seen a few with a different front bumper and some but not all have the amber marker lights nearest the grill rather than on the outsides of the headlights. The newer ones look the same as yours.

Danny_R

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by km449 on Jul 13^th, 2006, 5:04pm

Graham,

Just wondered how the XG experience was going? Anything more to report?

Keith

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by geraghtyg on Jul 13^th, 2006, 5:39pm

Everything still perfect, more or less. Everyone who has had a test drive has been very VERY impressed and most say its the most comfortable car they've ever driven or ridden in.

Yesterday, the "check engine" light came on. Went to the Hyundai dealership where they plugged it into the computer. One of the oxygen sensors had displayed a fault but appeared to be ok so he cleared and said keep an eye on it. If it comes on again, the garage will replace the sensor. Light came on again today so will call them tomorrow and arrange for them to get a new sensor and fit it whenever I get time. No problems with the performance of the car though. Stupid "Check Engine" light!!! And the fuel economy is better!!!

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by km449 on Jul 14^th, 2006, 8:32am

Graham
Can you tell us, does they drivers seat slide back when you remove the ignition key?
Thanks again, Keith

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by geraghtyg on Jul 14^th, 2006, 8:44am

Yes Keith, the seat does slide back, provided you have applied the parking brake. When you put the key back into the ignition barrell, the seat moves back to that key's settings. Quite nifty. Although with my diminutive size , not essential.

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by mr._floppy on Jul 14^th, 2006, 7:06pm

I was told the dash on the XG was poorly designed and plasticky, however the pictures I've seen don't look half bad.

Although compared to the Scorp the XG's looks have dated rather badly . But for low price opulence, which is what I want, once you've had an smooth Autobox, Climate Control and Cruise Control it's hard to contemplate the dreary gear changing of an Astra or Fusion .

They're d**n cheap too. ::)

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by km449 on Jul 14^th, 2006, 9:32pm

Graham,

You have much to answer for! :-)

Can you tell me something bad about the H please!

I have a respectable 97 P 138k Scorpio Ultima, fsh etc, with my only concerns being its 18-20mpg thirst no matter and it's increasingly occasional delay in initial gear selection.

Until I saw the XG30 I was quite happy but having sampled the H's box and engine I am like a unfulfiiled adolescent after a first date under the pier! My pefect car would be the XG box and engine in my scorp!!

The H seemed to have the corner handling ability of an oil tanker, no matter what the speed, but was otherwise hugely impressive - if that makes sense

So I need you to sell me it's bad points so that I can see sense again and happily return to the scorpio fold!

Play fair mate!! ;D

Keith

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by mr._floppy on Jul 16^th, 2006, 10:29am

Check out E-Bay No. 140006894497.

3 year old, low mileage, book price is £4500, could go for a lot lower. :-*

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by geraghtyg on Jul 16^th, 2006, 1:45pm

Looks like a nice one, Mr Floppy :) And as for the plasticky dash, I would have to disagree - I am very fond of the dash.

As for bad points about the car.....Well I ahven't found any YET. The only two things I can think of that might but you off are the steering and the suspension.

Fristly, the steering is light, VERY light, at low speeds anyway. If you like lots of feel and feedback from the road, you may not like it. I like it though

Secondly, the suspension. It's probably the main thing people would not like. It's very VERY soft. Soaks all the bumps up alright but yess, it does roll a lot at corners. But I think it's worth if for the smoothness of the ride. If going over short speed bumps, you must go quite slow or the front of the car may hit the ground as you go over it - Here is a review from an Australian website. You'll see that it's almost perfect but the reviewer obviosly wasn't fond of the suspension. At the bottom of the review, there are a few photos showing the car contending with a speed bump - it'll give you an idea of what I'm trying to try describe - http://autoweb.drive.com.au/cms/A_409/article.html

Other than that, I am EXTREMELY happy with this car - It is a fair bit wider though, than the Scorpio so you would have to keep this in mind when driving!!! The electric folding mirrors are a real boon though. The photochromatic mirror is always switched on - You cant switch it off but then again, it shouldn't make a difference as I never switched mine off in the Scorpio anyway. There are two cupholders in the front beneath a damped panel between the front seats and two cupholders in the rear armrest, again in a damped pop out panel. No remote controls for the stereo though but the fantastic sound quality makes up for it.

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by km449 on Jul 16^th, 2006, 4:08pm

Graham.

Is the suspension really as bad over speedbumps as the review suggests?

In my area we have all sorts of them, so that sounds as if this could be a problem for me!

I can drive pretty much straight across the smallish single ones as they are just narrower than the scorpio.

We also have the ones that stretch across the whole road but are often 20-25 feet long and the scorp doesnt like them much even at low speeds. I've never felt that it was close to bottoming out though.

Added to the fact that we have a 6'6" width restriction close by should I be thinking the XG isn't going to be right for us :(

Keith

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by geraghtyg on Jul 16^th, 2006, 4:42pm

Keith, there are plenty of those long ramps you talk about in my area and they are fine - better than the Scorpio - It's only those little short ones that you have to slow down a little more - It hasn't bottomed out for me yet anyway. To put it this way, I would rather travel over speed bumps in my XG rather than the Scorpio.

As for width restriactions, the XG is approx 6' 1" or 6' 2" wide so not overly wide but a good 3" wider than the Scorpio, I would imagine.

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by km449 on Jul 16^th, 2006, 6:55pm

Graham, thanks for that info. Much appreciated!

Decision time soon!

Keith

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by km449 on Jul 23^rd, 2006, 1:48pm

Just completed a late night 300 mile trip on deserted A roads and motorways. With the family asleep on board I set the cruise control at 75 and looked forward to checking the average mpg when I got home.

To say I was disappointed to see 24.7 average mpg out of a 2.3 which barely caught it's breath is the understatement of the year! Apart from the first mile and last 2 the car was cruising at 75 - singularly unimpressed!

As I sat there actually enjoying driving in England, on deserted roads, I wondered why I'd been thinking about changing the scorpio for an XG 30. At 24.7 at 75 mph now I know why!!

What would you have expected out of an XG on a cruise of that speed??

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by geraghtyg on Jul 24^th, 2006, 11:31am

Keith, I couldn't really say what you'd get out of an XG30 as I drive an XG25, 2.5 litre. The XG25 was only available in Ireland and Korea, AFAIK. The XG30 was not available here and the XG25 was not available in the UK. The reason for this was because of Ireland's very unfair and extremely expensive car taxation system, based on engine capacity.
Also, the XG25 has a 4 speed gearbox and the XG30 has a 5 speed - Again this could make a difference. However, from the driving I have done so far, I would say that cruising at a constant 120 KMH, I would guess I would be getting somewhere between 30 - 35MPG.

Had my first motoway driving yesterday - well actually brand new 3 lane dual carriageway between Dublin and Naas, Co Kildare - The drive was an absolute joy - Approx 45 KMs of driving at a contstant 100 KMH with the cruise control - My passengers were most impressed with the quality of the ride and also the fancy cupholders, front and rear ;-)

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by LiverpaulH on Jul 25^th, 2006, 12:07pm

Seems like you're pretty impressed with it mate. Glad you've found a worthy replacement in terms of toys and luxury.

Personally I wouldn't get one as I like to corner a bit like a nutter and the handling of the scorp is a joy for such a tank, it just holds on so well. Driving is to be enjoyed and I find the scorp to be a great drivers car.

Those XG's are something of a bargain mind.

Cheers
Paul

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by geraghtyg on Jul 25^th, 2006, 12:39pm

Yes Paul - Would have to agree with ya about corners - The Scorpio really is fantastic for keeping relatively level!!! Roundabouts at any kind of speed in the XG do give a fair bit of lean but I have almost got used to it but on the straights and any uneven ground, she more than makes up for it with superb quietness and smoothness.

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by geraghtyg on Aug 8^th, 2006, 2:53pm

Just discovered another feature on the XG!!! If I hold down the "unlock" button on the fob, the drivers window goes down. Only works one way and only on the drivers window. Still, its good to open the window as I appraoch the car on a hot summers day to let that horrible heat out before I climb in and let the A/C do the rest of the job. Bit like the global opening/closing mod to me!!!

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by Baw_Flinger on Aug 9^th, 2006, 7:51am

Or a bit of Korean bodged wiring ;) ;D

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by mr._floppy on Aug 9^th, 2006, 1:49pm

When I bought my Scorp I remember the seller telling me about a similar trick the car does with the remote and the drivers window when the inside of the car is stifling due to it being parked in the sun, but I've never been able to replicate it .

Title: Re: Selling My Car :-(
Post by geraghtyg on Aug 13^th, 2006, 5:26pm

OK, just a few comments on the XG's climate control system. All I can say is "WOW"!!! It's fully automatic as opposed to the Scorpio's semi-automatic.

I have had it set to 70F and auto since I got it and it holds the temp rock steady at that. The A/C has also been on all the time and the air was being directed to the face vents.

However, when driving a few nights on what was the coldest night since I go the car, the CC system behaved differently. Outside temp was 52F when I started it up. immediately, the vent direction was windscreen with the de-mist button also lit up and A/C on. After a minute or so, the de-mist light switched off and so did the A/C light and air was now directed to the face vents. Once the engine had warmed up sufficiently, the vents changed to to footwells, presumably to keep my feet warm and as warm air rises, directing air to the lowest point makes sense as it can rise from here. Every so often, the CC system would switch to footwell and face vents and then back down to footwell. And a few times, the aircon also came on for a minute or so. I presume this is to ensure the windows dont mist up. And of course, if I was behind a moped or car with nasty exhaust gases coming from it, the recirculate would switch in automatically ensuring I would never get a whiff of any unpleasant smells.

All in all, a truly outstanding and also simple to use climate control system. I t almost put's the Scorpio's to shame. If the Scorpio wasn't dual zone, then there would be no comparison.

True enough, the XG was introduced in 1998, the same year the Scorpio ceased production so has a few years of extra advances in technology. But still, it's effectiveness has amazed me.