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(Message started by: Daven on Jul 25th, 2006, 5:09pm)
Title: How Many on UK roads
Post by Daven on Jul 25th, 2006, 5:09pm
I know this has been asked in the past but I just had to find out!

Department of Transport has just replied!

Click here (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dave.neale/howmany)

Remember this is Taxable vehicles as at 31st March 06 in the UK!

:o

Dave
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Kjetil S on Jul 25th, 2006, 5:26pm
Surely there MUST be more than 40 cossies and 12-valves in the UK? And more than 30 diesels and 2.3's. Or am I reading the figures wrong?
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Daven on Jul 25th, 2006, 5:33pm
I took it to be thousands - but then that seems high to me - there is no email address so it would need another letter to confirm! :-/

Dave
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Kjetil S on Jul 25th, 2006, 5:37pm
It can't be thousands. There weren't a million scorps sold in the world  ::)

Closer to 98.600 according to this (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/revisions.htm).
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Daven on Jul 25th, 2006, 5:39pm
Sorry  - thats what I meant 92.2k left - can't be!!

Wonder if there are other Models they left out - I have not seen the code M1459 or M1460 before!

Dave
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Kjetil S on Jul 25th, 2006, 5:44pm
If you multiply the numbers by 10, MAYBE, but even that seems improbable. Perhaps they just lost track of most of them?  ::)
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by - Mike - on Jul 25th, 2006, 5:47pm
Can't possibly be right  :-/  surely  ???

If so, mines coming off the road and being treated as rare and precious jewel wrapped in cotton wool and shrink wrapped only coming out once a year for Harewood  }{  }{
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Daven on Jul 25th, 2006, 5:47pm

on 07/25/06 at 17:44:10, Kjetil S wrote:
Perhaps they just lost track of most of them?  ::)


What a UK government department - NO WAY ;D
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by - Mike - on Jul 25th, 2006, 5:52pm
In that case I'm not taxing mine this month and taking me chances, I may not exist  LOL   }{ }{
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Kjetil S on Jul 25th, 2006, 6:22pm
Maybe they're beta testing a computer system utilizing quantum physics. "There may or may not be a thousand scorpios on the road today"  ;D
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Baz on Jul 25th, 2006, 7:38pm
They must be using the same formula that they used when calculating how many eastern european economic migrants would come to the UK in the first 12 months after membership to the EU. I believe the figure they came out with was 17,000. and then 6,500 turned up in Crewe alone in the space of three weeks all looking for work!! I believe the national figure is over 100,000!! so manybe some good comparisons there then! ;D
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Highlander on Jul 25th, 2006, 8:11pm
;D
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by mazzy_j on Jul 26th, 2006, 8:05am
I see there are 2 auto's 'over 3000cc', maybe they are howiedintheplace' 3.7l engined scorps??

Well, i have my project derv in the garage so thats adds another 1 to diesel scorps left in existance (but not taxed). Still, that not that many at all.

Matt
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by hellblue on Jul 26th, 2006, 10:27pm
Even Eddie Stobart has more trucks on the road than that,but then you do see more of his trucks than scorpios so maybe it is right ?
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Andy on Jul 27th, 2006, 7:10am
I agree that these figures cannot be correct. I am the proud owner of a dark metallic blue 'P' reg Scorpio Ultima 2.3 estate automatic, which i bought earlier this year to replace a very disappointing Nissan Almera.

Living as I do in North Wales I didn't expect to see many more Scorpios, but I have spotted quite a few over the past few months, including at least another two estates, one of which was a Ghia model in a very dark grey colour, and I have seen several saloons in this area also, all different ones. Not sure what engines they have got as I didn't see their rear ends.

I would upload a photo of my estate but I'm not sure how to do it :(
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Daven on Jul 27th, 2006, 7:34am
:D Thought this would cause a stir - I will try and find out what they missed!

Dave
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Frank on Jul 27th, 2006, 10:47am
Only 4 automatic Cossies??? Well, there's mine.....I wonder who's got other other three? ???

Dave, couldn't you give the man a bell?

Frank
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Daven on Jul 27th, 2006, 2:42pm
Did just that today - Frank

The results are in units but have got another list on its way (emailed this time). Apparently there are further models listed which Paul at DOT didn't realise (he was very helpful BTW)

Instead of being listed as Scorpio or Scorpio Auto there are further catagories listing the model IE Ultima, Ghia and Exec!

Will feedback the results asap!

Dave

PS - he also said there were around 1500 un-taxed!! :)
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Penguin on Jul 27th, 2006, 3:48pm

Quote:
PS - he also said there were around 1500 un-taxed!!  


At least ten of those are in a yard in Hornchurch where I weant to get a new wheel (but then they are also in pieces).  One very sad site was a dead Ultima or Ghia X estate (couldn't tell which because the badges had been removed) - but anyway it still had all it's internal leather glory now had four space saver spare wheels.

Cheers

Penguin
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Highlander on Jul 28th, 2006, 6:13pm
Andy, email me your pic of the car and i'll post it for you
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Daven on Jul 28th, 2006, 7:52pm
OK - the latest!

Unfortunately the search engine and time available restricts how much detail I was allowed, but now we have the info it may be easier after 31 March 07 to get an update to compare.

Filter:
LICIND Licensed
and     (MODEL1 M1459 SCORPIO or M1460 SCORPIO AUTO
or M1552 GRANADA SCORPIO 24V A
or M1659 GRANADA SCORPIO TURBO D
or M1694 SCORPIO ULTIMA 16V
or M1695 SCORPIO ULTIMA 16V AUTO
or M1696 SCORPIO ULTIMA 24V AUTO
or M1697 SCORPIO ULTIMA TD or M1698 SCORPIO EXECUTIVE 8V
or M1699 SCORPIO EXECUTIVE 16V
or M1700 SCORPIO EXEC. 16V AUTO
or M1701 SCORPIO EXEC. 24V AUTO
or M1702 SCORPIO EXECUTIVE TD
or M1703 SCORPIO GHIA 16V
or M1704 SCORPIO GHIA 16V AUTO
or M1705 SCORPIO GHIA 24V
or M1706 SCORPIO GHIA TD
or M1725 SCORPIO GHIA 12V AUTO
or M1726 SCORPIO ULTIMA 12V AUTO
or M1727 SCORPIO EXECUTIVE 12V AUTO
or M1780 SCORPIO ULTIMA 16V
or M1781 SCORPIO ULTIMA 16V AUTO
or M1782 SCORPIO EXECUTIVE 16V
or M1783 SCORPIO EXECUTIVE 16V AUTO
or M1789 SCORPIO GHIA X 16V
or M1790 SCORPIO GHIA X 16V AUTO
or M1791 SCORPIO GHIA X 24V AUTO
or M1792 SCORPIO GHIA X TD
or M1793 SCORPIO GHIA 8V
or M1839 SCORPIO GHIA TD AUTO
or M1840 SCORPIO GHIA X TD AUTO
or M1841 SCORPIO ULTIMA TD AUTO)

Total Licensed 21287

Plus the 1500 unlicensed!

Yes I know it has Granadas, but next time we can ask by the model number and at least we now have a better idea!

Dave
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by mr._floppy on Jul 28th, 2006, 9:02pm
Gee,      for a model that only lasted  for 3 years  and  less than 100 000   manufactured ,   it  sure  had  a  lot  of   variants. :-*


That's  quite a  healthy  figure   considering  the  last  car  was  made    7   years   ago.
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Kjetil S on Jul 28th, 2006, 9:30pm
How common are the granada 24v and TD in the UK?

Atleast here in Norway, there are most likely more mk3 granadas than scorpios on the road, but not many 24v and diesels. Most are 2.0 and 2.4s, with the odd 2.8 and 2.9 12v.
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Geoff_W on Jul 28th, 2006, 11:03pm
With a current membership of just over 3000 it looks like about 14% ish of existing Scorps may be driven by members  8)
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Highlander on Jul 31st, 2006, 6:49am
Assuming we only have one each ;)
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Kjetil S on Jul 31st, 2006, 6:05pm
Also assuming that everyone who has sold their Scorp has cancelled their membership.
Title: Re: How Many on (UK) German roads
Post by ADroste on Aug 1st, 2006, 3:01am
It was quite hot this weekend in Germany. So I escaped into the cellar and investigated the homepage of the German Kraftfahrtbundesamt, which probably is a similar organisation as DOT. To extract the desired result from the huge amount of cars took the whole weekend. But I think it was worth while. Look, what I found out:

http://www.droste-brk.homepage.t-online.de/Storage/GranadaQty.gif

http://www.droste-brk.homepage.t-online.de/Storage/ScorpioQty.gif

I am not totally satisfied, because I do not know, if the approval date of 19970901 would reflect the Facelift models in the lower table. If yes, then 6561 of them are running on German streets.
The status was for January 2006.

Cheers
Armin
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Daven on Aug 1st, 2006, 7:14am
Excellent work Armin, thanks

Dave
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by ADroste on Aug 1st, 2006, 9:54pm
Dave,
you're welcome. I will keep my eyes open, if more interesting data will be published on www.kba.de. However, I think a post will get lost. Such information would be better suited on the web-page.
Armin
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Zombie on Aug 15th, 2006, 10:24am
There would be more on UK rods but Top Gear and Fifth Gear keep using Scorpios for "crash testing" and general televised destruction.  

The Swines!
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by solarpanel on Aug 15th, 2006, 9:01pm
well if geoff-w got/had 2 scorps,highlander got/had 3 and ive got 4 i seem to have cornered the market share lol
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by Geoff_W on Aug 15th, 2006, 9:04pm
Still got 2 one very much alive and the other hibernating but still starts first turn of the key  ;)

Suspect in addtion to the 3 Highlander has, he also has about another two in kit form (thank goodness)

What sort are your four?
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by solarpanel on Aug 15th, 2006, 9:57pm
n plate 2.0 ghia manual owned since 2000 retired 12/05,cossie p plate owned 05/05 now dead wiring rotten,2.3 ultima est r plate owned 09/05 still in use plus just got 98 s plate ghia x cossie fsh but guides broken so engine out awaiting parts to be fitted,so im running out of space,may be breaking the first two.p plater still runs but you cant lock it up.
Title: Re: How Many on UK roads
Post by bootiful-scorpios on Aug 17th, 2006, 6:05pm
solapanel , if you do decide to break your cossy id be intrestered in a few parts if you are selling any ?


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