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(Message started by: chrali on Jan 10th, 2008, 6:06pm)

Title: Hiya everyone - new scorp owner here
Post by chrali on Jan 10th, 2008, 6:06pm
I've just bought a 2.9 12v 1995/6 Ford Scorpio saloon with a dented wing, cracked bumper and a charging problem.

May be a mad moment, but on the plus I know the car and the guy selling it and the best bit ( until I know otherwise ) is that its £200. He wanted £700.  ;D ;D

I know its only the 12v , but I always feel that real engines have 6 or more cylinders  :P

Shame its not the Cossie , but it should be a good long lasting lump.

I'll see if I've made a tragic mistake when I get my hands on it.

Bye for now chaps and trust me I'll be begging for help real soon.




Title: Re: Hiya everyone - new scorp owner here
Post by Highlander on Jan 10th, 2008, 6:20pm
Hello and Welcome  ;D

Good price :) 12v's are pretty bomb proof and dont seem to suffer from any specific problems unlike the 24v and DOHC's :)

Title: Re: Hiya everyone - new scorp owner here
Post by chrali on Jan 11th, 2008, 10:49am

on 01/10/08 at 18:20:23, Highlander wrote:
Hello and Welcome  ;D

Good price :) 12v's are pretty bomb proof and dont seem to suffer from any specific problems unlike the 24v and DOHC's :)


Thats my hope, still I wont know what I've got until I pick it up ( the owner has other things on his mind as one of their horses was put down yesterday ).

So when theyre ready really.

What I do know that my wife isnt happy  ;D

Title: Re: Hiya everyone - new scorp owner here
Post by Highlander on Jan 11th, 2008, 11:16am

on 01/11/08 at 10:49:00, chrali wrote:
What I do know that my wife isnt happy  ;D


They're all the same ;) ask Tiberius about that one ;)

Title: Re: Hiya everyone - new scorp owner here
Post by Tons_of_fun on Jan 11th, 2008, 3:16pm
Hi & welcome Chrail.Good choice in motors there.Personally i,ve always prefered the 12 valve models as they usually prove to be the least problematic (speaking from experiance).One thing you wont like however is the fuel consumption.Im regularly reduced to tears every time i fill the tank  ;).One thing is for sure though,you wont find a more classy ,comfy,refind car for the money.Enjoy

Title: Re: Hiya everyone - new scorp owner here
Post by merseyscorp on Jan 12th, 2008, 2:41am

on 01/10/08 at 18:20:23, Highlander wrote:
Hello and Welcome  ;D

Good price :) 12v's are pretty bomb proof and dont seem to suffer from any specific problems unlike the 24v and DOHC's :)


Hi Highlander, can you just run the specific problems by me again please for the DOHC's?
Thanks.

Title: Re: Hiya everyone - new scorp owner here
Post by Kjetil S on Jan 12th, 2008, 4:52pm
Wiring loom insulation cracking is a favourite..

Title: Re: Hiya everyone - new scorp owner here
Post by Tons_of_fun on Jan 12th, 2008, 7:24pm
Closley followed by failing coil packs & inlet manifold splitting on the 2.3.

Title: Re: Hiya everyone - new scorp owner here
Post by TiberiuS on Jan 13th, 2008, 12:01am

on 01/11/08 at 11:16:38, Highlander wrote:
They're all the same ;) ask Tiberius about that one ;)


Oi...I'm not quite sure how to take that ;D

I never had either of the last two problems, my loom cracked up but I rewired it myself after I managed to pick myself up off of the floor in the local dealer when I asked the price of a new loom :o

Main problems were fuel consumption and the autobox, the latter being the main reason I decided to part company with the old girl. I did start losing a bit of coolant later on, whether this was the manifold starting to give or something else I never found out. But the 2.3 engine is nice, if not quite a V6. Quiet and smooth revving, relaxed at speed. In a different class to the 1.8 I have in the Mondeo although the Mondeo does a constant 35mpg and has been 120% reliable so far so I'm happy..

If I did it again, I'd probably go for the 12v or the derv if it had to be dependable, I'd love to try a 2.3 with the waggly stick though ::)

Regards, Bruce.

Title: Re: Hiya everyone - new scorp owner here
Post by Tons_of_fun on Jan 13th, 2008, 12:54am
Had a go in a manual 2.3 last year & i have to say,it,s a completely different beast.The whole experiance seems to be a lot more alive (if you know what i mean).

Title: Re: Hiya everyone - new scorp owner here
Post by peteHull on Jan 13th, 2008, 9:35am
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Mines waggly, can leave others stood wondering, brilliant for towing too....

Pete

Title: Re: Hiya everyone - new scorp owner here
Post by chrali on Jan 14th, 2008, 1:53pm
Thanks for the welcome chaps , I had a look at beast this weekend. Looks better than I imagined!! The dent on the wing was whether the owner kicked it for the dead battery, so I would expect a paintless dent removal company would have no problem sorting that. Tiny specle of rust on one arch, couldnt feel any mud, so could be just an untouched stonechip. The bumper is cracked and still has phesant feathers embedded in it. A couple of spots of laquer are missing/damaged, but only very small.  The engine runs a bit lumpy ( apparently his mate!?! has fiddled ), so I reckon hes 'fiddled' an air leak in. The battery discharges overnight but drains seem clear and both fuseboxes have their covers, so when I get it at the end of the month, its investigation time. The original alarm is disconnect and replaced by another and its had another barrel, but has the original keys (a its got the chip ), wonder if something alarm related's been left behind?

The owner drives it repeatedly throughout the days doing at least 4 5mile trips to the stables and says that as long as he leaves the battery disconnected overnight he has no problem.

As for me it pains me seeing it in need of a d**n good clear inside and out, sitting in the mud at the stables. I'll get it on the 25th Jan, cant wait.

Have to admit I was looking at Omegas, but man can those things rust in the oddest of places.

10 seconds in the Scorp seat and I just knew I'd made the right decision  ;D I even like the way they look  ;D


Title: Re: Hiya everyone - new scorp owner here
Post by Tompion on Jan 14th, 2008, 2:52pm
The engine may settle down once you don't have to disconnect the battery - the engine management has to keep relearning all the sensor values at the moment.

Title: Re: Hiya everyone - new scorp owner here
Post by Snoopy on Jan 14th, 2008, 3:10pm
You need to find out the discharge value which might point you /us in the right direction .... even though it has BOTH covers on the fuse boxes .... DOES it have a BATTERY cover?????

Air leaks on the 12 v are not as serious as on some of some of the other models but need finding. one place to look is under the IACV ... http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UADsHGEYXO9hLXv6rJA68tN9rTrDz4zWysISr43vPqF9wgpC8ZqTWoJ46dArRMA6XmwAOIUWLi6MuIcuR1YsdJg5KBqQ4vgMD!RVH72xpUq8dyasiCIR63iC7BwEcOwc/P?dc=4675611254003435024

Title: Re: Hiya everyone - new scorp owner here
Post by peteHull on Jan 14th, 2008, 3:23pm

on 01/14/08 at 13:53:33, chrali wrote:
10 seconds in the Scorp seat and I just knew I'd made the right decision  ;D I even like the way they look  ;D


;D

This lad's really smitten isn't he....   ;D

Title: Re: Hiya everyone - new scorp owner here
Post by chrali on Jan 22nd, 2008, 3:45pm
Hmmm no it doesnt have the battery cover  :'(

Still I can always hope that the battery drain has another cause thats easier to fix ..... after all I've seen lots and lots of posts the missing battery cover lets water in an all kinds of electrical silliness happen, but I dont think I've seen a post where it causes a straight forward battery drain.

Or am I deluding myself .......



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